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Attributes | |
ACN | 86917 |
Time | |
Date | 198804 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : tvt airport : 10g |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cak |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 1550 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 86917 |
Person 2 | |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While conducting an instrument check in an small aircraft operating on an IFR flight plan I noticed 2 aircraft at our 12 O'clock position after turning outbnd on the procedure turn. Timing was started prior to noticing the 2 aircraft approximately 1 mi away and course was adjusted to remain clear. A turn of about 15 degrees left was required for 10 seconds and then a return to the outbound 197 degree heading at 3000' MSL. At this time I looked over my right shoulder (I was in the right seat) and saw an aircraft following us at about 200' from a position just behind our right wing tip at the same altitude. The aircraft remained there for about 20 seconds then made a steep descending turn to the right and departed. The 2 occupants of the aircraft seemed to be looking at us and very aware of our presence. Approach control said they had no contact with any of the aircraft we saw and that radar contact is not possible during the entire VOR a approach at 10G. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter does not think the other aircraft was trying to fly formation and he doesn't know where he came from, felt other pilot was perhaps trying to get his north number, but when he saw him looking small aircraft Y broke sharply away and down and was never seen again. Said probable reason approach radar was no longer painting small aircraft X and small aircraft Y is because terrain is hilly in area and were probably blocked by hill. In this area are only 2000' AGL.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BETWEEN GA-SMA AND GA-SMA.
Narrative: WHILE CONDUCTING AN INSTRUMENT CHK IN AN SMA OPERATING ON AN IFR FLT PLAN I NOTICED 2 ACFT AT OUR 12 O'CLOCK POS AFTER TURNING OUTBND ON THE PROC TURN. TIMING WAS STARTED PRIOR TO NOTICING THE 2 ACFT APPROX 1 MI AWAY AND COURSE WAS ADJUSTED TO REMAIN CLR. A TURN OF ABOUT 15 DEGS LEFT WAS REQUIRED FOR 10 SECS AND THEN A RETURN TO THE OUTBOUND 197 DEG HDG AT 3000' MSL. AT THIS TIME I LOOKED OVER MY RIGHT SHOULDER (I WAS IN THE RIGHT SEAT) AND SAW AN ACFT FOLLOWING US AT ABOUT 200' FROM A POS JUST BEHIND OUR RIGHT WING TIP AT THE SAME ALT. THE ACFT REMAINED THERE FOR ABOUT 20 SECS THEN MADE A STEEP DSNDING TURN TO THE RIGHT AND DEPARTED. THE 2 OCCUPANTS OF THE ACFT SEEMED TO BE LOOKING AT US AND VERY AWARE OF OUR PRESENCE. APCH CTL SAID THEY HAD NO CONTACT WITH ANY OF THE ACFT WE SAW AND THAT RADAR CONTACT IS NOT POSSIBLE DURING THE ENTIRE VOR A APCH AT 10G. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR DOES NOT THINK THE OTHER ACFT WAS TRYING TO FLY FORMATION AND HE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE HE CAME FROM, FELT OTHER PLT WAS PERHAPS TRYING TO GET HIS N NUMBER, BUT WHEN HE SAW HIM LOOKING SMA Y BROKE SHARPLY AWAY AND DOWN AND WAS NEVER SEEN AGAIN. SAID PROBABLE REASON APCH RADAR WAS NO LONGER PAINTING SMA X AND SMA Y IS BECAUSE TERRAIN IS HILLY IN AREA AND WERE PROBABLY BLOCKED BY HILL. IN THIS AREA ARE ONLY 2000' AGL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.