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Attributes | |
ACN | 871588 |
Time | |
Date | 201001 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | PHL.Airport |
State Reference | PA |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 160 Flight Crew Total 21000 Flight Crew Type 3000 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Engineer Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Multiengine |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 200 Flight Crew Total 25000 Flight Crew Type 10900 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Ground Conflict Less Severe Ground Incursion Runway |
Narrative:
Visibility was reported as variable; one mile with light snow. A normal ILS approach and landing were flown by our first officer. We cleared the landing runway (9R) and were then cleared to taxi via taxiways 'U'; 'P'; 'T' to hold short of runway 9L at 'T'. The taxiways were covered with light snow; which was no problem. We taxied as instructed and held short of runway 9L at tango facing north. A few moments later; the 9R tower controller told us that there would be an aircraft taxiing into position and holding on runway 9L; and that he would wait for us. Then we were told to cross runway 9L at tango and to contact ramp control on the other side. The taxi surface was snowy; so I added power to cross 9L gradually. I turned on all the external lights and moved across the hold short line. As my aircraft moved slowly forward; my attention went to the aircraft taxiing into position at the approach end on 9L. His landing lights were on and I perceived that he was continuing to move towards us. At that moment; I realized that he was adding power and beginning his take-off roll; instead of holding in position on the runway. I immediately stopped our aircraft with our nose 10 to 15 ft past the hold short line and directed our first officer to tell tower we were stopping for the aircraft taking off on runway 9L. As he passed our position; the nose of my aircraft was well clear of runway 9L; and at no time was either aircraft in any danger. We called tower again and told him that we were stopped short of runway 9L at tango; but that our nose was 15 ft beyond the hold short line. After a few moments; we were re-cleared to cross 9L at tango and to contact ramp on the other side. With all external lights still on; we crossed 9L. We called clear on the other side and asked for a phone number. We were cleared to taxi to the gate and shut down. After checklists were completed; I called the number I was given and reported the event. The supervisor had not been made aware of the situation at that time. I asked him to pull the tapes for both the 9R and the 9L tower frequencies for the time of the event. He said that he would. I then called the chief pilot's office and reported the event on the recorder answering the phone. A contributing cause to this event could have been the reduced visibility from the tower to the take-off position on 9L.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: After landing and being cleared to cross a parallel runway towards the ramp while a departing aircraft held in position; the Captain of a B767-200 noticed the aircraft was staring a takeoff roll. They stopped short of the runway but over the hold line while the Dash 8 passed in front of them.
Narrative: Visibility was reported as variable; one mile with light snow. A normal ILS approach and landing were flown by our First Officer. We cleared the landing Runway (9R) and were then cleared to taxi via taxiways 'U'; 'P'; 'T' to hold short of Runway 9L at 'T'. The taxiways were covered with light snow; which was no problem. We taxied as instructed and held short of Runway 9L at Tango facing North. A few moments later; the 9R Tower Controller told us that there would be an aircraft taxiing into position and holding on Runway 9L; and that he would wait for us. Then we were told to cross Runway 9L at Tango and to contact Ramp Control on the other side. The taxi surface was snowy; so I added power to cross 9L gradually. I turned on all the external lights and moved across the hold short line. As my aircraft moved slowly forward; my attention went to the aircraft taxiing into position at the approach end on 9L. His landing lights were on and I perceived that he was continuing to move towards us. At that moment; I realized that he was adding power and beginning his take-off roll; instead of holding in position on the runway. I immediately stopped our aircraft with our nose 10 to 15 FT past the hold short line and directed our First Officer to tell Tower we were stopping for the aircraft taking off on Runway 9L. As he passed our position; the nose of my aircraft was WELL CLEAR of Runway 9L; and at NO TIME was either aircraft in any danger. We called Tower again and told him that we were stopped short of Runway 9L at Tango; but that our nose was 15 FT beyond the hold short line. After a few moments; we were re-cleared to cross 9L at Tango and to contact ramp on the other side. With all external lights still on; we crossed 9L. We called clear on the other side and asked for a phone number. We were cleared to taxi to the gate and shut down. After checklists were completed; I called the number I was given and reported the event. The Supervisor had not been made aware of the situation at that time. I asked him to pull the tapes for both the 9R and the 9L Tower frequencies for the time of the event. He said that he would. I then called the Chief Pilot's Office and reported the event on the recorder answering the phone. A contributing cause to this event could have been the reduced visibility from the Tower to the take-off position on 9L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.