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Attributes | |
ACN | 90604 |
Time | |
Date | 198807 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lga airport : n90 |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 500 msl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 90604 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 125 flight time total : 6305 flight time type : 4720 |
ASRS Report | 90332 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After normal start and taxi aircraft was cleared for takeoff. At approximately 500' MSL #2 engine fire warning light and bell came on. Bell was silenced and emergency was declared. Aircraft continued to climb to approximately 1000' MSL. #2 engine thrust level was retarded to idle and fire light extinguished. Engine indications were egt 360 degrees C, #2 engine generator oil temperature 80 degrees C (normal), #2 engine oil temperature increased to 120 degrees C (normal). Captain had made the takeoff, and now control of aircraft was given to first officer. Captain and second officer performed engine fire checklist, to #2 engine thrust lever to idle. All engine indications were now normal, no fire light, and no smoke or fire had been reported by tower or other ground observers. Captain instructed first officer to fly a heading and climb to 5000'. Engine fire checklist was performed, with instructions from captain not to move any levers or switches, simply read and observe indications. Checklist reading was completed and captain instructed second officer to perform engine fire test. The #2 engine fire test tested normally. The #2 engine was returned to climb power with no adverse indications and no fire warning. Captain at this time cancelled the emergency. Maintenance in msp was notified. Captain made decision to continue the flight to msp. In msp maintenance found a very small bleed air leak from 13TH stage and repaired it. Aircraft returned to service after approximately 2 hours. It is my opinion that there was no danger to aircraft or passenger. The flight was conducted safely. However, it is my opinion that the aircraft should have returned to departure point. The first officer and second officer should have been more insistent that the aircraft be returned, and captain should have discussed with the crew as to what their opinions were. Capts seem to have all decision making authority, but should consult with other crew members more effectively. Supplemental information from acn 90332: captain was removed from service to airline's pending investigation of this incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT HAS FIRE WARNING DURING INITIAL CLIMB OUT OF LGA.
Narrative: AFTER NORMAL START AND TAXI ACFT WAS CLRED FOR TKOF. AT APPROX 500' MSL #2 ENG FIRE WARNING LIGHT AND BELL CAME ON. BELL WAS SILENCED AND EMER WAS DECLARED. ACFT CONTINUED TO CLB TO APPROX 1000' MSL. #2 ENG THRUST LEVEL WAS RETARDED TO IDLE AND FIRE LIGHT EXTINGUISHED. ENG INDICATIONS WERE EGT 360 DEGS C, #2 ENG GENERATOR OIL TEMP 80 DEGS C (NORMAL), #2 ENG OIL TEMP INCREASED TO 120 DEGS C (NORMAL). CAPT HAD MADE THE TKOF, AND NOW CTL OF ACFT WAS GIVEN TO F/O. CAPT AND S/O PERFORMED ENG FIRE CHKLIST, TO #2 ENG THRUST LEVER TO IDLE. ALL ENG INDICATIONS WERE NOW NORMAL, NO FIRE LIGHT, AND NO SMOKE OR FIRE HAD BEEN RPTED BY TWR OR OTHER GND OBSERVERS. CAPT INSTRUCTED F/O TO FLY A HDG AND CLB TO 5000'. ENG FIRE CHKLIST WAS PERFORMED, WITH INSTRUCTIONS FROM CAPT NOT TO MOVE ANY LEVERS OR SWITCHES, SIMPLY READ AND OBSERVE INDICATIONS. CHKLIST READING WAS COMPLETED AND CAPT INSTRUCTED S/O TO PERFORM ENG FIRE TEST. THE #2 ENG FIRE TEST TESTED NORMALLY. THE #2 ENG WAS RETURNED TO CLB PWR WITH NO ADVERSE INDICATIONS AND NO FIRE WARNING. CAPT AT THIS TIME CANCELLED THE EMER. MAINT IN MSP WAS NOTIFIED. CAPT MADE DECISION TO CONTINUE THE FLT TO MSP. IN MSP MAINT FOUND A VERY SMALL BLEED AIR LEAK FROM 13TH STAGE AND REPAIRED IT. ACFT RETURNED TO SVC AFTER APPROX 2 HRS. IT IS MY OPINION THAT THERE WAS NO DANGER TO ACFT OR PAX. THE FLT WAS CONDUCTED SAFELY. HOWEVER, IT IS MY OPINION THAT THE ACFT SHOULD HAVE RETURNED TO DEP POINT. THE F/O AND S/O SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE INSISTENT THAT THE ACFT BE RETURNED, AND CAPT SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THE CREW AS TO WHAT THEIR OPINIONS WERE. CAPTS SEEM TO HAVE ALL DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY, BUT SHOULD CONSULT WITH OTHER CREW MEMBERS MORE EFFECTIVELY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 90332: CAPT WAS REMOVED FROM SVC TO AIRLINE'S PENDING INVESTIGATION OF THIS INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.