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Attributes | |
ACN | 91521 |
Time | |
Date | 198807 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 5500 |
ASRS Report | 91521 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 8940 flight time type : 1940 |
ASRS Report | 91576 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : rejected takeoff |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On takeoff roll as throttle advanced received takeoff warning horn. Aborted takeoff at less than 60 KTS and rolled off first turnoff. Upon checking discovered trim to be near aft edge of green band. Initial trim setting had been 14.7%. Manifest check had given revised trim setting of 10.7%. Normal practice among crews on this medium large transport has been to set trim slightly light (beneath) that given to aid in maintaining proper pitch up for noise abatement climb out. The nature of the trim setting indication is not very precise (certainly not to tenths of a percent). In this case the setting had been just low enough that our tendency to go to the lower of where we perceived the setting to be had put us at the edge of the green band and triggered the takeoff warning. On the taxiway we adjusted the trim, ran up the engines, received no warning and then proceeded with a normal takeoff. In the future any trim setting close to the green band edge should be checked closely--perhaps even to the point of an initial run up in position before starting roll. Whereas the method of computing trim is relatively precise, the method of setting is imprecise to say the least.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WARNING HORN SOUNDED DURING TKOF ROLL ON ACR MLG. FLT CREW TKOF ABORT AND FOUND TRIM TAB SET OUTSIDE GREEN BAND.
Narrative: ON TKOF ROLL AS THROTTLE ADVANCED RECEIVED TKOF WARNING HORN. ABORTED TKOF AT LESS THAN 60 KTS AND ROLLED OFF FIRST TURNOFF. UPON CHKING DISCOVERED TRIM TO BE NEAR AFT EDGE OF GREEN BAND. INITIAL TRIM SETTING HAD BEEN 14.7%. MANIFEST CHK HAD GIVEN REVISED TRIM SETTING OF 10.7%. NORMAL PRACTICE AMONG CREWS ON THIS MLG HAS BEEN TO SET TRIM SLIGHTLY LIGHT (BENEATH) THAT GIVEN TO AID IN MAINTAINING PROPER PITCH UP FOR NOISE ABATEMENT CLBOUT. THE NATURE OF THE TRIM SETTING INDICATION IS NOT VERY PRECISE (CERTAINLY NOT TO TENTHS OF A PERCENT). IN THIS CASE THE SETTING HAD BEEN JUST LOW ENOUGH THAT OUR TENDENCY TO GO TO THE LOWER OF WHERE WE PERCEIVED THE SETTING TO BE HAD PUT US AT THE EDGE OF THE GREEN BAND AND TRIGGERED THE TKOF WARNING. ON THE TXWY WE ADJUSTED THE TRIM, RAN UP THE ENGS, RECEIVED NO WARNING AND THEN PROCEEDED WITH A NORMAL TKOF. IN THE FUTURE ANY TRIM SETTING CLOSE TO THE GREEN BAND EDGE SHOULD BE CHKED CLOSELY--PERHAPS EVEN TO THE POINT OF AN INITIAL RUN UP IN POS BEFORE STARTING ROLL. WHEREAS THE METHOD OF COMPUTING TRIM IS RELATIVELY PRECISE, THE METHOD OF SETTING IS IMPRECISE TO SAY THE LEAST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.