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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 126731 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198910 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : smf |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 126731 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After doing all checklist we did the engine start procedure and due to a low voltage on the battery cart, we had a hot start. I aborted the engine start and followed what I thought was the hot start procedure for the engine. We did the dry motoring run, then the normal start using another ground power unit. I let operator know that we had had a hot start and that we would be delayed about 10-15 mins. At the time of these events we had the FAA on board conducting an inspection due to the fact that he was looking over my shoulder with eyes wide open, I hesitated to open my flight standards manual. At the time I believed I had used the correct procedure. I found out the following day that the 'flight standards manual' says to notify maintenance in the event of a hot start. Although no manufacturer limits were exceeded and no threat to safety was involved. I feel that I should report this occurrence to NASA. If I didn't have a fed on board, I would have immediately opened up the book and completely reviewed these procedures. Possibly the fact that the captain should know 'all' and that I didn't want the fed to know that I might be weak on procedures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIC OF COMMUTER SMT WORRIED BECAUSE HE DID NOT NOTIFY MAINTENANCE FOLLOWING A 'HOT START'. ACI WAS OBSERVING THE OPERATION AT THE TIME.
Narrative: AFTER DOING ALL CHECKLIST WE DID THE ENGINE START PROC AND DUE TO A LOW VOLTAGE ON THE BATTERY CART, WE HAD A HOT START. I ABORTED THE ENGINE START AND FOLLOWED WHAT I THOUGHT WAS THE HOT START PROC FOR THE ENGINE. WE DID THE DRY MOTORING RUN, THEN THE NORMAL START USING ANOTHER GND POWER UNIT. I LET OPERATOR KNOW THAT WE HAD HAD A HOT START AND THAT WE WOULD BE DELAYED ABOUT 10-15 MINS. AT THE TIME OF THESE EVENTS WE HAD THE FAA ON BOARD CONDUCTING AN INSPECTION DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE WAS LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER WITH EYES WIDE OPEN, I HESITATED TO OPEN MY FLT STANDARDS MANUAL. AT THE TIME I BELIEVED I HAD USED THE CORRECT PROC. I FOUND OUT THE FOLLOWING DAY THAT THE 'FLT STANDARDS MANUAL' SAYS TO NOTIFY MAINT IN THE EVENT OF A HOT START. ALTHOUGH NO MANUFACTURER LIMITS WERE EXCEEDED AND NO THREAT TO SAFETY WAS INVOLVED. I FEEL THAT I SHOULD REPORT THIS OCCURRENCE TO NASA. IF I DIDN'T HAVE A FED ON BOARD, I WOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY OPENED UP THE BOOK AND COMPLETELY REVIEWED THESE PROCS. POSSIBLY THE FACT THAT THE CAPT SHOULD KNOW 'ALL' AND THAT I DIDN'T WANT THE FED TO KNOW THAT I MIGHT BE WEAK ON PROCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.