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Attributes | |
ACN | 1277626 |
Time | |
Date | 201507 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZFW.ARTCC |
State Reference | TX |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B777-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Descent |
Route In Use | STAR SEEVR2 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Component | |
Aircraft Component | FMS/FMC |
Person 1 | |
Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
Experience | Flight Crew Total 25000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Undershoot Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
I was the pilot monitoring on this flight as the first officer (first officer) was flying. On the SEEVR2 arrival fort worth center gave us a clearance to descend via the arrival with no speed restriction until brdje. I asked the first officer what he wanted to do. I didn't get a clear response and I said we could delete the speeds on the FMC by typing '/' and the altitude crossing restrictions. He did this; however in verifying the crossings we both missed that he put the themm restriction on seevr. During this time the relief pilot was busy putting entries in the log book and didn't witness it. It wasn't until reaching seevr that we saw that we were too high. At this time center handed us off to approach control; who then told us to expedite to 6;000. Nothing was said other than this. We were able to get down and make a normal approach to 17C. Of course that is not to say we weren't wrong. I am not sure why I suggested deleting the speed restrictions in the FMC and not using speed intervene; especially considering the number of crossing restrictions on the arrival. I will never touch crossing restrictions in the FMC in the future and will always use speed intervention when the speed restrictions are lifted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777 Captain reports being cleared to descend via the SEEVR2 Arrival and delete the speeds until BRDJE. The speeds are deleted in the FMC legs page; but the crossing restriction for THEMM is inadvertently placed on SEEVR.
Narrative: I was the pilot monitoring on this flight as the first officer (FO) was flying. On the SEEVR2 arrival Fort Worth center gave us a clearance to descend via the arrival with no speed restriction until BRDJE. I asked the FO what he wanted to do. I didn't get a clear response and I said we could delete the speeds on the FMC by typing '/' and the altitude crossing restrictions. He did this; however in verifying the crossings we both missed that he put the THEMM restriction on SEEVR. During this time the relief pilot was busy putting entries in the log book and didn't witness it. It wasn't until reaching SEEVR that we saw that we were too high. At this time center handed us off to approach control; who then told us to expedite to 6;000. Nothing was said other than this. We were able to get down and make a normal approach to 17C. Of course that is not to say we weren't wrong. I am not sure why I suggested deleting the speed restrictions in the FMC and not using speed intervene; especially considering the number of crossing restrictions on the arrival. I will never touch crossing restrictions in the FMC in the future and will always use speed intervention when the speed restrictions are lifted.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.