Close proximity air carrier-large transport small aircraft in dca TCA.

Attributes
ACN	164487
Time
Date	199012
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : dca
State Reference	DC
Altitude	msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : dca
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure : noise abatement departure sid : sid
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 2600
ASRS Report	164487
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : second officer
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 700
ASRS Report	164252
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 500 vertical : 200
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Climb power applied out of 3500' approaching 10 DME. I spotted a small aircraft above and directly ahead. I quickly pointed the aircraft out to the copilot, who as flying and he quickly reduced power, pushed the nose over and banked right, and we passed below and aft of the small aircraft, which appeared to be an small aircraft flying south at about 4500'. As we continued the climb, I reported the incident to washington departure control. They had no targets in that vicinity, but took the information to alert aircraft departing behind us. Visibility was good, and perhaps we would have spotted the small aircraft sooner had we not been a bit preoccupied with all the restrictions and maneuvering required on the northwest VMC departure from dca (northwest being the direction not our company). Supplemental information from acn 164252. Controller, when queried, said he had no transponder, but intermittent skin paint on subject aircraft.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLOSE PROX ACR-LGT SMA IN DCA TCA.

Narrative: CLB PWR APPLIED OUT OF 3500' APCHING 10 DME. I SPOTTED A SMALL ACFT ABOVE AND DIRECTLY AHEAD. I QUICKLY POINTED THE ACFT OUT TO THE COPLT, WHO AS FLYING AND HE QUICKLY REDUCED PWR, PUSHED THE NOSE OVER AND BANKED R, AND WE PASSED BELOW AND AFT OF THE SMALL ACFT, WHICH APPEARED TO BE AN SMA FLYING S AT ABOUT 4500'. AS WE CONTINUED THE CLB, I RPTED THE INCIDENT TO WASHINGTON DEP CTL. THEY HAD NO TARGETS IN THAT VICINITY, BUT TOOK THE INFO TO ALERT ACFT DEPARTING BEHIND US. VISIBILITY WAS GOOD, AND PERHAPS WE WOULD HAVE SPOTTED THE SMA SOONER HAD WE NOT BEEN A BIT PREOCCUPIED WITH ALL THE RESTRICTIONS AND MANEUVERING REQUIRED ON THE NW VMC DEP FROM DCA (NW BEING THE DIRECTION NOT OUR COMPANY). SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 164252. CTLR, WHEN QUERIED, SAID HE HAD NO XPONDER, BUT INTERMITTENT SKIN PAINT ON SUBJECT ACFT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.