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Attributes | |
ACN | 189047 |
Time | |
Date | 199109 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sjc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute airway : oak |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 21000 flight time type : 2300 |
ASRS Report | 189047 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Making loupe departure sjc. After turn to 120 degree heading, first officer put aircraft on autoplt. Used performance mode (advanced cockpit). We had previously been cleared to maintain 250 KTS until further advised. Out of 10000 ft aircraft in performance mode began to accelerate to normal performance climb speed. Performance mode had not been programmed for 250 KT climb speed. I caught airspeed going through 275 KTS, disconnected performance mode and the rest of the climb and departure was made at 250 KTS in IAS mode. As the new first officer's come out of training they use the advanced cockpit modes almost exclusively. (This is because of FAA insistence in training.) a little experience in plain ole' flying and airplane would be very helpful. Too much reliance on automatic system is going to burn you sooner or later.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIRSPD DEV ON SID DEP.
Narrative: MAKING LOUPE DEP SJC. AFTER TURN TO 120 DEG HDG, FO PUT ACFT ON AUTOPLT. USED PERFORMANCE MODE (ADVANCED COCKPIT). WE HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN CLRED TO MAINTAIN 250 KTS UNTIL FURTHER ADVISED. OUT OF 10000 FT ACFT IN PERFORMANCE MODE BEGAN TO ACCELERATE TO NORMAL PERFORMANCE CLB SPD. PERFORMANCE MODE HAD NOT BEEN PROGRAMMED FOR 250 KT CLB SPD. I CAUGHT AIRSPD GOING THROUGH 275 KTS, DISCONNECTED PERFORMANCE MODE AND THE REST OF THE CLB AND DEP WAS MADE AT 250 KTS IN IAS MODE. AS THE NEW FO'S COME OUT OF TRAINING THEY USE THE ADVANCED COCKPIT MODES ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY. (THIS IS BECAUSE OF FAA INSISTENCE IN TRAINING.) A LITTLE EXPERIENCE IN PLAIN OLE' FLYING AND AIRPLANE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. TOO MUCH RELIANCE ON AUTO SYS IS GOING TO BURN YOU SOONER OR LATER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.