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Attributes | |
ACN | 193994 |
Time | |
Date | 199111 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 193994 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 800 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Upon departing runway 31 at lga, we were assigned a 340 degree heading and cleared to 5000 ft. After takeoff the tower instructed us to contact departure control as we were climbing through 1000 ft. We changed frequencys as instructed but were unable to contact departure due to a stuck microphone on the frequency. We contacted lga tower again and were immediately assigned another frequency. At about this time we were approaching 4000 ft and noticed another aircraft in front of us and slightly above passing left to right. We reduced our rate of climb and contacted departure on the new frequency. The controller immediately instructed us to stop our climb at 4000 ft (we had been cleared to 5000 ft), but we overshot as we leveled off abruptly, reaching a maximum altitude of about 4200 ft. The traffic ahead of us was about 1 mi away at 5000 ft. Although I do not believe that a collision would have occurred, we probably would have passed uncomfortably close to the other aircraft if we had climbed all the way to our clearance altitude. In this case both we and the controller recognized the potential conflict and we each took corrective action. The standard departure at lga from runway 31 calls for a climb to 5000 ft, so I can only assume that someone had erroneously vectored the other aircraft through the departure corridor at an inappropriate (and dangerous) altitude. As pilots we are required to adhere to our clearance routing and altitude in the event of communication failure, and we therefore depend upon ATC to provide us with safe passage. If we had been in instrument meteorological conditions and were unable to establish contact with ATC, this incident could have been much more dangerous. This serves as one more example of the importance of always visually scanning for traffic in VMC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR HAS LTSS ON CLB OUT.
Narrative: UPON DEPARTING RWY 31 AT LGA, WE WERE ASSIGNED A 340 DEG HDG AND CLRED TO 5000 FT. AFTER TKOF THE TWR INSTRUCTED US TO CONTACT DEP CTL AS WE WERE CLBING THROUGH 1000 FT. WE CHANGED FREQS AS INSTRUCTED BUT WERE UNABLE TO CONTACT DEP DUE TO A STUCK MICROPHONE ON THE FREQ. WE CONTACTED LGA TWR AGAIN AND WERE IMMEDIATELY ASSIGNED ANOTHER FREQ. AT ABOUT THIS TIME WE WERE APCHING 4000 FT AND NOTICED ANOTHER ACFT IN FRONT OF US AND SLIGHTLY ABOVE PASSING L TO R. WE REDUCED OUR RATE OF CLB AND CONTACTED DEP ON THE NEW FREQ. THE CTLR IMMEDIATELY INSTRUCTED US TO STOP OUR CLB AT 4000 FT (WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO 5000 FT), BUT WE OVERSHOT AS WE LEVELED OFF ABRUPTLY, REACHING A MAX ALT OF ABOUT 4200 FT. THE TFC AHEAD OF US WAS ABOUT 1 MI AWAY AT 5000 FT. ALTHOUGH I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT A COLLISION WOULD HAVE OCCURRED, WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE PASSED UNCOMFORTABLY CLOSE TO THE OTHER ACFT IF WE HAD CLBED ALL THE WAY TO OUR CLRNC ALT. IN THIS CASE BOTH WE AND THE CTLR RECOGNIZED THE POTENTIAL CONFLICT AND WE EACH TOOK CORRECTIVE ACTION. THE STANDARD DEP AT LGA FROM RWY 31 CALLS FOR A CLB TO 5000 FT, SO I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT SOMEONE HAD ERRONEOUSLY VECTORED THE OTHER ACFT THROUGH THE DEP CORRIDOR AT AN INAPPROPRIATE (AND DANGEROUS) ALT. AS PLTS WE ARE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO OUR CLRNC RTING AND ALT IN THE EVENT OF COM FAILURE, AND WE THEREFORE DEPEND UPON ATC TO PROVIDE US WITH SAFE PASSAGE. IF WE HAD BEEN IN INST METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS AND WERE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH CONTACT WITH ATC, THIS INCIDENT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE DANGEROUS. THIS SERVES AS ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF ALWAYS VISUALLY SCANNING FOR TFC IN VMC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.