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Air carrier turning final approach for runway 24 complex at lax overshot and conflicted with a runway 25L landing.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 214432 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199207 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3600 msl bound upper : 4200 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 214432 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 17000 |
| ASRS Report | 214525 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 600 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared for ILS 25L approach (air carrier X) when the TCASII went 'traffic, traffic' showing to our 3 O'clock. I looked and couldn't see anyone. Again TCASII went off, and then told us to 'climb'. TCASII began aural warning at 14 DME. We leveled off, then began a climb. I finally saw air carrier Y at our 3 O'clock position very close. I thought he had overshot on approach to 25R. I called approach and asked about the traffic, and he apologized for not pointing it out and said it was a little close. We switched to tower at 6.9 DME. Tower, on the ground when I asked him, said he tried to call us but we were off frequency. We switched right at the marker, as required.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR TURNING FINAL APCH FOR RWY 24 COMPLEX AT LAX OVERSHOT AND CONFLICTED WITH A RWY 25L LNDG.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR ILS 25L APCH (ACR X) WHEN THE TCASII WENT 'TFC, TFC' SHOWING TO OUR 3 O'CLOCK. I LOOKED AND COULDN'T SEE ANYONE. AGAIN TCASII WENT OFF, AND THEN TOLD US TO 'CLB'. TCASII BEGAN AURAL WARNING AT 14 DME. WE LEVELED OFF, THEN BEGAN A CLB. I FINALLY SAW ACR Y AT OUR 3 O'CLOCK POS VERY CLOSE. I THOUGHT HE HAD OVERSHOT ON APCH TO 25R. I CALLED APCH AND ASKED ABOUT THE TFC, AND HE APOLOGIZED FOR NOT POINTING IT OUT AND SAID IT WAS A LITTLE CLOSE. WE SWITCHED TO TWR AT 6.9 DME. TWR, ON THE GND WHEN I ASKED HIM, SAID HE TRIED TO CALL US BUT WE WERE OFF FREQ. WE SWITCHED RIGHT AT THE MARKER, AS REQUIRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.