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Attributes | |
ACN | 224802 |
Time | |
Date | 199210 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : iiu airport : ksdf |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid tracon : aus |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 224802 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Due to poor routing issued by ATC, an excessive amount of radio time is expended on requesting a more direct route after hvq to sdf. The poor route requires aircraft to fly J-6 to the iiu 131 degree radial rapidly that is from the northeast sector of the airport to the southeast sector, approximately 60 mi southwest of airport, then a right 67 degree turn to proceed inbound on the iiu 131 degree radial to the VOR. When requested both times to fly hvq J-8 iiu direct sdf, ATC denied it, then numerous requests were made to fly direct iiu direct sdf with all being denied. Reason: ZID said no was because sdf approach would not allow it, not because of traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MLG ACR CREW WAS GIVEN A LONGER RTE TO SDF WITH NO APPARENT REASON FOR THE ROUTING.
Narrative: DUE TO POOR ROUTING ISSUED BY ATC, AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF RADIO TIME IS EXPENDED ON REQUESTING A MORE DIRECT RTE AFTER HVQ TO SDF. THE POOR RTE REQUIRES ACFT TO FLY J-6 TO THE IIU 131 DEG RADIAL RAPIDLY THAT IS FROM THE NE SECTOR OF THE ARPT TO THE SE SECTOR, APPROX 60 MI SW OF ARPT, THEN A R 67 DEG TURN TO PROCEED INBOUND ON THE IIU 131 DEG RADIAL TO THE VOR. WHEN REQUESTED BOTH TIMES TO FLY HVQ J-8 IIU DIRECT SDF, ATC DENIED IT, THEN NUMEROUS REQUESTS WERE MADE TO FLY DIRECT IIU DIRECT SDF WITH ALL BEING DENIED. REASON: ZID SAID NO WAS BECAUSE SDF APCH WOULD NOT ALLOW IT, NOT BECAUSE OF TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.