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Attributes | |
ACN | 226063 |
Time | |
Date | 199211 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tus |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5600 msl bound upper : 5600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tus |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 226063 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While shooting a visual approach to runway 11L at ktus on an IFR flight plan, tucson approach control advised of an small aircraft and that he had us in sight. We replied that we did not have the small aircraft in sight. A moment later, as we turned onto final approach, the small aircraft passed directly underneath our airplane at 100 ft or less beneath us. It was a clear, dark night with bright lights on the ground, and the small aircraft had only dim wingtip position lights illuminated, making him effectively invisible. It is clear that even if the small aircraft did have us in sight, he was unable to provide separation. I suggest that the regulations be changed so that in a similar situation, ATC be required to maintain separation unless both airplanes have the other one in sight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG AND AN SMA HAD AN NMAC AT NIGHT AT TUS.
Narrative: WHILE SHOOTING A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 11L AT KTUS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN, TUCSON APCH CTL ADVISED OF AN SMA AND THAT HE HAD US IN SIGHT. WE REPLIED THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THE SMA IN SIGHT. A MOMENT LATER, AS WE TURNED ONTO FINAL APCH, THE SMA PASSED DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH OUR AIRPLANE AT 100 FT OR LESS BENEATH US. IT WAS A CLR, DARK NIGHT WITH BRIGHT LIGHTS ON THE GND, AND THE SMA HAD ONLY DIM WINGTIP POS LIGHTS ILLUMINATED, MAKING HIM EFFECTIVELY INVISIBLE. IT IS CLR THAT EVEN IF THE SMA DID HAVE US IN SIGHT, HE WAS UNABLE TO PROVIDE SEPARATION. I SUGGEST THAT THE REGS BE CHANGED SO THAT IN A SIMILAR SITUATION, ATC BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN SEPARATION UNLESS BOTH AIRPLANES HAVE THE OTHER ONE IN SIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.