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Attributes | |
ACN | 233323 |
Time | |
Date | 199302 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9700 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5300 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 233323 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
TCASII sounded 'traffic,' followed by 'descend' command. We were level at 10000 ft, 30 NM northwest of ord. We left 10000 ft, leveled, then reversed and climbed back to 10000 ft when TCASII sounded all clear. Altitude was about 9700 ft. The traffic was never acquired visually, and never pointed out by ATC, until we advised them of our descent due to a TCASII RA. They then said we had a VFR at 10500 ft but he was no longer a factor. TCASII target said plus 4 descending, that was when the RA came, and that was as close as the target got. In my opinion, it was not an near midair collision, it presented no operational problems for us, nor did our RA maneuver cause a problem/conflict for ord ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG DSNDED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII COMMAND.
Narrative: TCASII SOUNDED 'TFC,' FOLLOWED BY 'DSND' COMMAND. WE WERE LEVEL AT 10000 FT, 30 NM NW OF ORD. WE LEFT 10000 FT, LEVELED, THEN REVERSED AND CLBED BACK TO 10000 FT WHEN TCASII SOUNDED ALL CLR. ALT WAS ABOUT 9700 FT. THE TFC WAS NEVER ACQUIRED VISUALLY, AND NEVER POINTED OUT BY ATC, UNTIL WE ADVISED THEM OF OUR DSCNT DUE TO A TCASII RA. THEY THEN SAID WE HAD A VFR AT 10500 FT BUT HE WAS NO LONGER A FACTOR. TCASII TARGET SAID PLUS 4 DSNDING, THAT WAS WHEN THE RA CAME, AND THAT WAS AS CLOSE AS THE TARGET GOT. IN MY OPINION, IT WAS NOT AN NMAC, IT PRESENTED NO OPERATIONAL PROBS FOR US, NOR DID OUR RA MANEUVER CAUSE A PROB/CONFLICT FOR ORD ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.