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Attributes | |
ACN | 243321 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msy |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msy |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 60 |
ASRS Report | 243321 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 550 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
TCASII issued TA for traffic 10-11 O'clock, approximately 4 mi. RA issued climb, climbing traffic. Instructed by ivsi to climb 3000 FPM. We complied. Visual contact made after 'monitor vertical speed' command issued by TCASII. ATC gave no advisory traffic was in area. When we questioned after clear of traffic, controller made comment that other aircraft was probably united states custom service operating outside TCA. Other aircraft was an small transport jet. ATC should have been more alert to other traffic in area. It sounded like same controller voice on approach control frequency, tower frequency, and ground control. If so, then he was overloaded with areas of control.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT HAS TCASII RA TO CLB WHILE DSNDING.
Narrative: TCASII ISSUED TA FOR TFC 10-11 O'CLOCK, APPROX 4 MI. RA ISSUED CLB, CLBING TFC. INSTRUCTED BY IVSI TO CLB 3000 FPM. WE COMPLIED. VISUAL CONTACT MADE AFTER 'MONITOR VERT SPD' COMMAND ISSUED BY TCASII. ATC GAVE NO ADVISORY TFC WAS IN AREA. WHEN WE QUESTIONED AFTER CLR OF TFC, CTLR MADE COMMENT THAT OTHER ACFT WAS PROBABLY UNITED STATES CUSTOM SVC OPERATING OUTSIDE TCA. OTHER ACFT WAS AN SMT JET. ATC SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE ALERT TO OTHER TFC IN AREA. IT SOUNDED LIKE SAME CTLR VOICE ON APCH CTL FREQ, TWR FREQ, AND GND CTL. IF SO, THEN HE WAS OVERLOADED WITH AREAS OF CTL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.