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Attributes | |
ACN | 246064 |
Time | |
Date | 199307 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 246064 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 245877 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Landing on runway 18 dca, first officer was flying. Tower asked us to hold short or roll through intersection of runway 21 for traffic for that runway. I advised we would roll through. Tower said turn right at taxiway a. My reply was if I could find it (as it was very dark at that end of the runway). I found taxiway a and started to clear runway 18. Before I realized how far I had gone, my nose was into runway 21. The mdt had to go around. There is a lot of construction going on at dca at that end of the field. Plus it never was very well lit. There is a need for well lit hold short and runway signs at that point. Supplemental information from acn 245877: after touchdown the tower instructed us to turn right on taxiway a and hold short of runway 21. I believe the hold short line for runway 21 on taxiway a was difficult to see due to the taxi and runway lights being relatively dim compared to the bright amber flashing construction lights. Also, taxiway a is very short and requires almost an immediate stop once clear of runway 18, so as to not intersect runway 21. It may have also been helpful if the tower had advised us of the immediate stop required once clear of runway 18.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG ENTERS AN ACTIVE RWY AFTER BEING INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT OF IT.
Narrative: LNDG ON RWY 18 DCA, FO WAS FLYING. TWR ASKED US TO HOLD SHORT OR ROLL THROUGH INTXN OF RWY 21 FOR TFC FOR THAT RWY. I ADVISED WE WOULD ROLL THROUGH. TWR SAID TURN R AT TXWY A. MY REPLY WAS IF I COULD FIND IT (AS IT WAS VERY DARK AT THAT END OF THE RWY). I FOUND TXWY A AND STARTED TO CLR RWY 18. BEFORE I REALIZED HOW FAR I HAD GONE, MY NOSE WAS INTO RWY 21. THE MDT HAD TO GAR. THERE IS A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AT DCA AT THAT END OF THE FIELD. PLUS IT NEVER WAS VERY WELL LIT. THERE IS A NEED FOR WELL LIT HOLD SHORT AND RWY SIGNS AT THAT POINT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 245877: AFTER TOUCHDOWN THE TWR INSTRUCTED US TO TURN R ON TXWY A AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 21. I BELIEVE THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 21 ON TXWY A WAS DIFFICULT TO SEE DUE TO THE TAXI AND RWY LIGHTS BEING RELATIVELY DIM COMPARED TO THE BRIGHT AMBER FLASHING CONSTRUCTION LIGHTS. ALSO, TXWY A IS VERY SHORT AND REQUIRES ALMOST AN IMMEDIATE STOP ONCE CLR OF RWY 18, SO AS TO NOT INTERSECT RWY 21. IT MAY HAVE ALSO BEEN HELPFUL IF THE TWR HAD ADVISED US OF THE IMMEDIATE STOP REQUIRED ONCE CLR OF RWY 18.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.