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Attributes | |
ACN | 249197 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tpa |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 249197 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Our clearance was the tampa 2 departure, then as filed, maintain 12000 ft. After departure and leaving 10000 ft in climb, we accelerated to our normal climb profile of 310 KTS. After contacting ZJX, we were then cleared altitude. Between 12000 ft and 13000 ft, the controller requested us to 'say speed.' we replied 310 KTS. The controller then advised us of a possible speed violation. (According to the tpa 2 departure, aircraft departing on a northerly transition are to maintain 250 KTS.) contributing factors: only airport (united states) that I am aware of with a speed restriction on departure in a SID. Placement of speed restriction on SID. (I feel it might help to be in the takeoff section of the SID where most pilots scrutinize the SID the most.) clearance to 12000 ft with a speed restriction. No verbal announcement of speed restriction in clearance. Crew actions: a need to reverify that all information on SID is clear and understood by both crew members.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN LGT ACR ACFT FAILED TO MEET SID SPD RESTRICTION.
Narrative: OUR CLRNC WAS THE TAMPA 2 DEP, THEN AS FILED, MAINTAIN 12000 FT. AFTER DEP AND LEAVING 10000 FT IN CLB, WE ACCELERATED TO OUR NORMAL CLB PROFILE OF 310 KTS. AFTER CONTACTING ZJX, WE WERE THEN CLRED ALT. BTWN 12000 FT AND 13000 FT, THE CTLR REQUESTED US TO 'SAY SPD.' WE REPLIED 310 KTS. THE CTLR THEN ADVISED US OF A POSSIBLE SPD VIOLATION. (ACCORDING TO THE TPA 2 DEP, ACFT DEPARTING ON A NORTHERLY TRANSITION ARE TO MAINTAIN 250 KTS.) CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: ONLY ARPT (UNITED STATES) THAT I AM AWARE OF WITH A SPD RESTRICTION ON DEP IN A SID. PLACEMENT OF SPD RESTRICTION ON SID. (I FEEL IT MIGHT HELP TO BE IN THE TKOF SECTION OF THE SID WHERE MOST PLTS SCRUTINIZE THE SID THE MOST.) CLRNC TO 12000 FT WITH A SPD RESTRICTION. NO VERBAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF SPD RESTRICTION IN CLRNC. CREW ACTIONS: A NEED TO REVERIFY THAT ALL INFORMATION ON SID IS CLR AND UNDERSTOOD BY BOTH CREW MEMBERS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.