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Attributes | |
ACN | 275141 |
Time | |
Date | 199406 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ict |
State Reference | KS |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ict |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Caravan 1 208A |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 275141 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 4500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We (flight light transport) were cleared to land on 3 mi final to runway 19L. A cessna caravan was ahead of us for landing. At 100 ft AGL my first officer called 'aircraft on the runway, go around.' we performed a go around and landed after no further events. When questioned the tower controller explained that the aircraft was instructed to turn off at taxiway 'golf' and all they needed was 4500 ft. I discussed this with the ATC facility supervisor. He advised me that the requirement they had was in fact 4500 ft. The first officer and I discussed this and we both feel that this was a very unsafe situation. We operate out of dfw where 'land and hold short' clrncs are common, but they are briefed in advance and area completely different situation than what I encountered at ict. Does this procedure need to be changed? I have always been taught to be aware of the landing environment and what the conditions on the runway are.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LNDG ON OCCUPIED RWY.
Narrative: WE (FLT LTT) WERE CLRED TO LAND ON 3 MI FINAL TO RWY 19L. A CESSNA CARAVAN WAS AHEAD OF US FOR LNDG. AT 100 FT AGL MY FO CALLED 'ACFT ON THE RWY, GAR.' WE PERFORMED A GAR AND LANDED AFTER NO FURTHER EVENTS. WHEN QUESTIONED THE TWR CTLR EXPLAINED THAT THE ACFT WAS INSTRUCTED TO TURN OFF AT TXWY 'GOLF' AND ALL THEY NEEDED WAS 4500 FT. I DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE ATC FACILITY SUPVR. HE ADVISED ME THAT THE REQUIREMENT THEY HAD WAS IN FACT 4500 FT. THE FO AND I DISCUSSED THIS AND WE BOTH FEEL THAT THIS WAS A VERY UNSAFE SIT. WE OPERATE OUT OF DFW WHERE 'LAND AND HOLD SHORT' CLRNCS ARE COMMON, BUT THEY ARE BRIEFED IN ADVANCE AND AREA COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SIT THAN WHAT I ENCOUNTERED AT ICT. DOES THIS PROC NEED TO BE CHANGED? I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TAUGHT TO BE AWARE OF THE LNDG ENVIRONMENT AND WHAT THE CONDITIONS ON THE RWY ARE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.