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Attributes | |
ACN | 304380 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 304380 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On vectors to runway 18R at dfw assigned airspeed was 210 KTS. ATC asked if we would be able to get down. I answered yes, incorrectly assuming that I would be free to get down any way that I could, and reduced to a flap speed that accelerated our descent. Shortly after this ATC asked our speed, which was by now below 210 KTS, and mentioned that they had not authority/authorized a speed reduction. ATC asked us to increase to 180 KTS until the marker, then contact the tower, etc. It was my error to reduce without their concurrence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 757 HAS SPD DEV ON DSCNT.
Narrative: ON VECTORS TO RWY 18R AT DFW ASSIGNED AIRSPD WAS 210 KTS. ATC ASKED IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET DOWN. I ANSWERED YES, INCORRECTLY ASSUMING THAT I WOULD BE FREE TO GET DOWN ANY WAY THAT I COULD, AND REDUCED TO A FLAP SPD THAT ACCELERATED OUR DSCNT. SHORTLY AFTER THIS ATC ASKED OUR SPD, WHICH WAS BY NOW BELOW 210 KTS, AND MENTIONED THAT THEY HAD NOT AUTH A SPD REDUCTION. ATC ASKED US TO INCREASE TO 180 KTS UNTIL THE MARKER, THEN CONTACT THE TWR, ETC. IT WAS MY ERROR TO REDUCE WITHOUT THEIR CONCURRENCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.