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Attributes | |
ACN | 307660 |
Time | |
Date | 199506 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 18000 |
ASRS Report | 307660 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After push-back from gate, ground control directed us to taxi to runway 11R, but to hold short of runway 4. After we had crossed runway 4 without further clearance, ground control reminded us that we had been told to 'hold short of runway 4' on our initial taxi instructions from the gate. I believe that both crewmembers forgot to hold short of runway 4, and 'ground control' failed to notice our crossing until too late because: runway 4/22 is very rarely used simultaneously with runways 11/29 (left or right), and pilots are used to not holding short. The high ceiling and good visibility contributed to the impression that this was a 'normal' situation -- with no 'hold short' required. Low visibility would have probably caused the crew to remember to hold short. Obviously 'hold short' red lights would have also prevented the crossing. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that he was merely complacent in not holding short of the runway since usually this is not required by tower since the crossing runway is seldom used. He will be more mindful in the future when crossing any runway during taxi. He was operating a DC9 type aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MLG FAILED TO HOLD SHORT OF AN ACTIVE RWY DURING TAXI FOR TKOF.
Narrative: AFTER PUSH-BACK FROM GATE, GND CTL DIRECTED US TO TAXI TO RWY 11R, BUT TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 4. AFTER WE HAD CROSSED RWY 4 WITHOUT FURTHER CLRNC, GND CTL REMINDED US THAT WE HAD BEEN TOLD TO 'HOLD SHORT OF RWY 4' ON OUR INITIAL TAXI INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE GATE. I BELIEVE THAT BOTH CREWMEMBERS FORGOT TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 4, AND 'GND CTL' FAILED TO NOTICE OUR XING UNTIL TOO LATE BECAUSE: RWY 4/22 IS VERY RARELY USED SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH RWYS 11/29 (L OR R), AND PLTS ARE USED TO NOT HOLDING SHORT. THE HIGH CEILING AND GOOD VISIBILITY CONTRIBUTED TO THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS WAS A 'NORMAL' SIT -- WITH NO 'HOLD SHORT' REQUIRED. LOW VISIBILITY WOULD HAVE PROBABLY CAUSED THE CREW TO REMEMBER TO HOLD SHORT. OBVIOUSLY 'HOLD SHORT' RED LIGHTS WOULD HAVE ALSO PREVENTED THE XING. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HE WAS MERELY COMPLACENT IN NOT HOLDING SHORT OF THE RWY SINCE USUALLY THIS IS NOT REQUIRED BY TWR SINCE THE XING RWY IS SELDOM USED. HE WILL BE MORE MINDFUL IN THE FUTURE WHEN XING ANY RWY DURING TAXI. HE WAS OPERATING A DC9 TYPE ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.