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Attributes | |
ACN | 314950 |
Time | |
Date | 199509 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Dash 8 Series Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 314950 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While on the arrival to clt, ATC issued clearance to be at 11000 ft 20 mi north of shine intersection. We do not dispute this, however, for an unknown reason both pilots thought he meant be at 11000 ft at shine, which is a common clearance. For some reason, we both were surprised when he questioned us when he saw we were not going to make the clearance. I do not know what factors could have contributed to our misunderstanding of this simple clearance. There was no conflict. The controller was rightfully irritated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV XING RESTR NOT MET.
Narrative: WHILE ON THE ARR TO CLT, ATC ISSUED CLRNC TO BE AT 11000 FT 20 MI N OF SHINE INTXN. WE DO NOT DISPUTE THIS, HOWEVER, FOR AN UNKNOWN REASON BOTH PLTS THOUGHT HE MEANT BE AT 11000 FT AT SHINE, WHICH IS A COMMON CLRNC. FOR SOME REASON, WE BOTH WERE SURPRISED WHEN HE QUESTIONED US WHEN HE SAW WE WERE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE CLRNC. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT FACTORS COULD HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO OUR MISUNDERSTANDING OF THIS SIMPLE CLRNC. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT. THE CTLR WAS RIGHTFULLY IRRITATED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.