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Attributes | |
ACN | 319269 |
Time | |
Date | 199510 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cmh |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cmh |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 319269 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 7000 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Descending to cmh for runway 28L, cleared to 6000 ft (?). At about 8000 ft, ATC called traffic at 12 O'clock and 7 (?) mi. Traffic was on TCASII, but we couldn't see it visually. Traffic closed, we got 'traffic' (TA) from TCASII. Then controller issued turn left to 360 degree heading (about a 30 degree left turn). Captain reached up to rotate heading knob to 360 degrees but, before aircraft responded, we got an RA to 'descend.' I saw traffic at 12 O'clock on a collision course, so I took control, clicked off the autoplt, increased the descent rate and turned left. Maneuver was quick but not violent. Light twin passed about 1 to 1 1/2 mi right and about 100 ft high. After clear of traffic, I put aircraft back on autoplt and formally transferred control back to the captain. Captain was very mildly miffed at me for taking control, but I felt there was no time for discussion. This is a TCASII save, even with some help from ATC. I should have at least said 'tally-ho' or something to let him know I was maneuvering based on a visual. Evading (or responding to RA) using autoplt inputs would have been too slow in this case. I should have communicated better, but I would do the same thing again. Captain and I discussed coordination and control after we landed. No clearance deviation. TCASII is saving lives every day.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC RESPONDS TO TCASII RA.
Narrative: DSNDING TO CMH FOR RWY 28L, CLRED TO 6000 FT (?). AT ABOUT 8000 FT, ATC CALLED TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK AND 7 (?) MI. TFC WAS ON TCASII, BUT WE COULDN'T SEE IT VISUALLY. TFC CLOSED, WE GOT 'TFC' (TA) FROM TCASII. THEN CTLR ISSUED TURN L TO 360 DEG HDG (ABOUT A 30 DEG L TURN). CAPT REACHED UP TO ROTATE HDG KNOB TO 360 DEGS BUT, BEFORE ACFT RESPONDED, WE GOT AN RA TO 'DSND.' I SAW TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK ON A COLLISION COURSE, SO I TOOK CTL, CLICKED OFF THE AUTOPLT, INCREASED THE DSCNT RATE AND TURNED L. MANEUVER WAS QUICK BUT NOT VIOLENT. LIGHT TWIN PASSED ABOUT 1 TO 1 1/2 MI R AND ABOUT 100 FT HIGH. AFTER CLR OF TFC, I PUT ACFT BACK ON AUTOPLT AND FORMALLY TRANSFERRED CTL BACK TO THE CAPT. CAPT WAS VERY MILDLY MIFFED AT ME FOR TAKING CTL, BUT I FELT THERE WAS NO TIME FOR DISCUSSION. THIS IS A TCASII SAVE, EVEN WITH SOME HELP FROM ATC. I SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST SAID 'TALLY-HO' OR SOMETHING TO LET HIM KNOW I WAS MANEUVERING BASED ON A VISUAL. EVADING (OR RESPONDING TO RA) USING AUTOPLT INPUTS WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO SLOW IN THIS CASE. I SHOULD HAVE COMMUNICATED BETTER, BUT I WOULD DO THE SAME THING AGAIN. CAPT AND I DISCUSSED COORD AND CTL AFTER WE LANDED. NO CLRNC DEV. TCASII IS SAVING LIVES EVERY DAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.