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Attributes | |
ACN | 329078 |
Time | |
Date | 199602 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rst |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 329078 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At touchdown on runway 31, the jet decelerated rapidly and the nose attempted to lower faster than normal. The first officer was flying and didn't allow the nose to contact the runway too hard. At about 90 KTS, the aircraft began to shimmy and vibrate. I took control of the jet and eased off the brakes. I sensed at least 1 blown tire. I asked the first officer if he landed with the brakes 'on.' he said 'maybe his toes were on them.' as it turned out, 1 tire was blown and the other 3 were useless. The first officer indicated he thought the runway was short (7500 ft long). Our vref was only 135 KTS, not much of a challenge for 7500 ft of runway. Noteworthy was the fact the first officer was type rated in the aircraft and a current simulator instructor in the same. Reviewing the events, it was night, so I could not watch his ft. I took control seconds after touchdown. I'm not sure what I could have done to prevent this incident. The first officer was also a KC135 commander. I had no reason to believe he'd land with the brakes on.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PF, FO, HAD BRAKES ON DURING INITIAL LNDG ROLL AND RESULTED IN BLOWN TIRE AND OTHER TIRES DAMAGED.
Narrative: AT TOUCHDOWN ON RWY 31, THE JET DECELERATED RAPIDLY AND THE NOSE ATTEMPTED TO LOWER FASTER THAN NORMAL. THE FO WAS FLYING AND DIDN'T ALLOW THE NOSE TO CONTACT THE RWY TOO HARD. AT ABOUT 90 KTS, THE ACFT BEGAN TO SHIMMY AND VIBRATE. I TOOK CTL OF THE JET AND EASED OFF THE BRAKES. I SENSED AT LEAST 1 BLOWN TIRE. I ASKED THE FO IF HE LANDED WITH THE BRAKES 'ON.' HE SAID 'MAYBE HIS TOES WERE ON THEM.' AS IT TURNED OUT, 1 TIRE WAS BLOWN AND THE OTHER 3 WERE USELESS. THE FO INDICATED HE THOUGHT THE RWY WAS SHORT (7500 FT LONG). OUR VREF WAS ONLY 135 KTS, NOT MUCH OF A CHALLENGE FOR 7500 FT OF RWY. NOTEWORTHY WAS THE FACT THE FO WAS TYPE RATED IN THE ACFT AND A CURRENT SIMULATOR INSTRUCTOR IN THE SAME. REVIEWING THE EVENTS, IT WAS NIGHT, SO I COULD NOT WATCH HIS FT. I TOOK CTL SECONDS AFTER TOUCHDOWN. I'M NOT SURE WHAT I COULD HAVE DONE TO PREVENT THIS INCIDENT. THE FO WAS ALSO A KC135 COMMANDER. I HAD NO REASON TO BELIEVE HE'D LAND WITH THE BRAKES ON.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.