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Attributes | |
ACN | 334720 |
Time | |
Date | 199604 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 14500 msl bound upper : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 133 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 334720 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : ground critical non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 15000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Captain was off ATC frequency talking with company. First officer took ATC clearance to descend to 13000 ft at 40 DME. At approximately 14500 ft ATC asked if we were at 16000 ft (the altitude ATC alleges we were cleared). On examining ATC tapes subsequent to event, it was discovered that our crew (first officer) did read back a descent to 13000 ft, which is the normal altitude for landing direction at the ATC 041 degree radial, 40 DME. We continued descent to 13000 ft and called 'center' on ground. ZTL indicated that the tape of the occurrence indicated our readback of 13000 ft which they indicated they did not catch. We joined the arrival as a fast mover (330 KTS) from the low altitude sector 22000 ft. Some difficulty might have occurred for the ATC controller as he was trying to work us into the arrival along with the high altitude arrs. They (ATC) indicated the loss of separation occurred with an inbound aircraft at 15000 ft. Had both pilots been on frequency, a backup for the alleged 16000 ft clearance with a subsequent 13000 ft readback might have been avoided. At no time did we receive a TCASII alert with the 15000 ft traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG OVERSHOT DSCNT ALT DUE TO ATC NOT HEARING THE INCORRECT READBACK ALT BY THE FLC.
Narrative: CAPT WAS OFF ATC FREQ TALKING WITH COMPANY. FO TOOK ATC CLRNC TO DSND TO 13000 FT AT 40 DME. AT APPROX 14500 FT ATC ASKED IF WE WERE AT 16000 FT (THE ALT ATC ALLEGES WE WERE CLRED). ON EXAMINING ATC TAPES SUBSEQUENT TO EVENT, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT OUR CREW (FO) DID READ BACK A DSCNT TO 13000 FT, WHICH IS THE NORMAL ALT FOR LNDG DIRECTION AT THE ATC 041 DEG RADIAL, 40 DME. WE CONTINUED DSCNT TO 13000 FT AND CALLED 'CTR' ON GND. ZTL INDICATED THAT THE TAPE OF THE OCCURRENCE INDICATED OUR READBACK OF 13000 FT WHICH THEY INDICATED THEY DID NOT CATCH. WE JOINED THE ARR AS A FAST MOVER (330 KTS) FROM THE LOW ALT SECTOR 22000 FT. SOME DIFFICULTY MIGHT HAVE OCCURRED FOR THE ATC CTLR AS HE WAS TRYING TO WORK US INTO THE ARR ALONG WITH THE HIGH ALT ARRS. THEY (ATC) INDICATED THE LOSS OF SEPARATION OCCURRED WITH AN INBOUND ACFT AT 15000 FT. HAD BOTH PLTS BEEN ON FREQ, A BACKUP FOR THE ALLEGED 16000 FT CLRNC WITH A SUBSEQUENT 13000 FT READBACK MIGHT HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. AT NO TIME DID WE RECEIVE A TCASII ALERT WITH THE 15000 FT TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.