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An air carrier medium large transport, a departing aircraft, states that his air carrier had an inbound aircraft on ATCT frequency, with the same trip number. The reporter believes that the ATCT local controller was overworked.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 356987 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199701 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ptw |
| State Reference | MI |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dtw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 175 |
| ASRS Report | 356987 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
On climb out, just before dtw ATCT switched us to departure, we heard tower clear another company aircraft, with same call sign to switch to ground control. We waited for tower to switch us to departure control. As he did, he said something about our takeoff roll and the takeoff clearance. The captain asked him 'to repeat' but he said 'disregard.' we believe he got confused over the flts with the same numbers. We asked dispatch if there were 2 flts with the same call sign and they responded via ACARS that they acknowledged the 2 flts. Company was aware we had a WX delay, but never changed our call sign. I'm concerned because tower made the comment also of 'he was working 2 runways and 3 frequencys with WX reported at a quarter mi or 3000 ft RVR.' in my opinion, this too is an unsafe practice.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG, A DEPARTING ACFT, STATES THAT HIS ACR HAD AN INBOUND ACFT ON ATCT FREQ, WITH THE SAME TRIP NUMBER. THE RPTR BELIEVES THAT THE ATCT LCL CTLR WAS OVERWORKED.
Narrative: ON CLBOUT, JUST BEFORE DTW ATCT SWITCHED US TO DEP, WE HEARD TWR CLR ANOTHER COMPANY ACFT, WITH SAME CALL SIGN TO SWITCH TO GND CTL. WE WAITED FOR TWR TO SWITCH US TO DEP CTL. AS HE DID, HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT OUR TKOF ROLL AND THE TKOF CLRNC. THE CAPT ASKED HIM 'TO REPEAT' BUT HE SAID 'DISREGARD.' WE BELIEVE HE GOT CONFUSED OVER THE FLTS WITH THE SAME NUMBERS. WE ASKED DISPATCH IF THERE WERE 2 FLTS WITH THE SAME CALL SIGN AND THEY RESPONDED VIA ACARS THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THE 2 FLTS. COMPANY WAS AWARE WE HAD A WX DELAY, BUT NEVER CHANGED OUR CALL SIGN. I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE TWR MADE THE COMMENT ALSO OF 'HE WAS WORKING 2 RWYS AND 3 FREQS WITH WX RPTED AT A QUARTER MI OR 3000 FT RVR.' IN MY OPINION, THIS TOO IS AN UNSAFE PRACTICE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.