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Attributes | |
ACN | 387940 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : tnv |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 23500 msl bound upper : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute : on vectors enroute airway : zhu |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 387940 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Aircraft had a number of MEL items, including no autoplt and flap indicator that restr us to 300 KTS or .65 mach. Multiple vectors and altitude changes, finally a turn back to the STAR, descend to FL240, frequency change, checking in with new controller I noticed we were going through FL240, I told the captain (PF) 'FL240.' he pulled up and we leveled off. The captain was concerned about a crossing on the STAR because of our reduced airspeed and the controller keeping us high. No autoplt contributed to this, but the altitude alert system also is to blame. In the previous aircraft I have flown the alert aural chime would only come on if you deviated from the set altitude, on this aircraft the chime sounds approaching the altitude, then the same chime sounds deviating from the set altitude. The point I am making is that you get so used to the chime, that when you deviate you tend to ignore it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MLG OVERSHOT DSCNT ALT DUE TO ATC CLRNC CHANGES. FO CAUGHT THE MISTAKE AND THE CAPT RETURNED AT ONCE TO ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: ACFT HAD A NUMBER OF MEL ITEMS, INCLUDING NO AUTOPLT AND FLAP INDICATOR THAT RESTR US TO 300 KTS OR .65 MACH. MULTIPLE VECTORS AND ALT CHANGES, FINALLY A TURN BACK TO THE STAR, DSND TO FL240, FREQ CHANGE, CHKING IN WITH NEW CTLR I NOTICED WE WERE GOING THROUGH FL240, I TOLD THE CAPT (PF) 'FL240.' HE PULLED UP AND WE LEVELED OFF. THE CAPT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT A XING ON THE STAR BECAUSE OF OUR REDUCED AIRSPD AND THE CTLR KEEPING US HIGH. NO AUTOPLT CONTRIBUTED TO THIS, BUT THE ALT ALERT SYS ALSO IS TO BLAME. IN THE PREVIOUS ACFT I HAVE FLOWN THE ALERT AURAL CHIME WOULD ONLY COME ON IF YOU DEVIATED FROM THE SET ALT, ON THIS ACFT THE CHIME SOUNDS APCHING THE ALT, THEN THE SAME CHIME SOUNDS DEVIATING FROM THE SET ALT. THE POINT I AM MAKING IS THAT YOU GET SO USED TO THE CHIME, THAT WHEN YOU DEVIATE YOU TEND TO IGNORE IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.