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Attributes | |
ACN | 399501 |
Time | |
Date | 199804 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : baq |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : baq |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 399501 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 399674 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 15000 vertical : 1300 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Requested visual approaching VOR in good VMC at 4000 ft. Cleared visual and immediately asked for a 360 degree turn to lose altitude on tower frequency. Cleared as requested and cleared visual to land. Transient aircraft popped up on TCASII 6 mi and 2000 ft above as we initiated our 360 degree delay turn. No communications were heard from this aircraft at any time during the approach nor were we advised of any traffic by either approach or tower. As we turned final the other was 3 mi in trail and 1300 ft above us. That was the closest the 2 aircraft came to each other throughout our approach and landing. Ground then advised us to call baq approach, which we did. To our surprise baq approach told us the other aircraft had filed a near miss.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B727 FLC RPT THAT ANOTHER ACFT APPARENTLY FILED AN NMAC AGAINST THE RPTR'S EVEN THOUGH THEIR TCASII DISPLAY SHOWED THAT THEY WERE ADEQUATELY SEPARATED WHILE CIRCLING TO LOSE ALT.
Narrative: REQUESTED VISUAL APCHING VOR IN GOOD VMC AT 4000 FT. CLRED VISUAL AND IMMEDIATELY ASKED FOR A 360 DEG TURN TO LOSE ALT ON TWR FREQ. CLRED AS REQUESTED AND CLRED VISUAL TO LAND. TRANSIENT ACFT POPPED UP ON TCASII 6 MI AND 2000 FT ABOVE AS WE INITIATED OUR 360 DEG DELAY TURN. NO COMS WERE HEARD FROM THIS ACFT AT ANY TIME DURING THE APCH NOR WERE WE ADVISED OF ANY TFC BY EITHER APCH OR TWR. AS WE TURNED FINAL THE OTHER WAS 3 MI IN TRAIL AND 1300 FT ABOVE US. THAT WAS THE CLOSEST THE 2 ACFT CAME TO EACH OTHER THROUGHOUT OUR APCH AND LNDG. GND THEN ADVISED US TO CALL BAQ APCH, WHICH WE DID. TO OUR SURPRISE BAQ APCH TOLD US THE OTHER ACFT HAD FILED A NEAR MISS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.