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Attributes | |
ACN | 408235 |
Time | |
Date | 199807 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hgr |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hgr tracon : dtw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340B |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 408235 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Observed aircraft on TCASII while descending on an ILS approach. An obvious conflict was about to occur. Began to level the descent just as the TCASII called 'traffic, traffic.' a few seconds later, TCASII said 'monitor, vertical speed' indicating to stop descending, this traffic was below us. I believe the visibility to be below the reported 5 NM. If it was 5 NM, we most likely could have gotten a visual approach. The visibility was more like 2 or 3 mi. We could not see the field while being vectored on a right downwind. VFR aircraft in the vicinity were asking for 'practice ILS approachs' which probably means they could not see the airport. If our TCASII had been deferred (broken) that day (today), I estimate a 50%/50% chance of a midair collision with a nearly full aircraft. This tower needs some radar. ZDC has trouble seeing us through the mountains.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN A SAAB SF340 ON AN ILS APCH AND A HELI XING UNDERNEATH THE LOC CAUSING THE SF34 TCASII ALERT TO WARN OF TFC. THE FO FLYING THE SF34 STOPPED DSCNT AND LEVELED OFF UNTIL THE TCASII SHOWED CLR OF TFC. RPTR BELIEVES THAT THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A COLLISION IF THEIR ACFT DID NOT HAVE TCASII TO WARN THEM.
Narrative: OBSERVED ACFT ON TCASII WHILE DSNDING ON AN ILS APCH. AN OBVIOUS CONFLICT WAS ABOUT TO OCCUR. BEGAN TO LEVEL THE DSCNT JUST AS THE TCASII CALLED 'TFC, TFC.' A FEW SECONDS LATER, TCASII SAID 'MONITOR, VERT SPD' INDICATING TO STOP DSNDING, THIS TFC WAS BELOW US. I BELIEVE THE VISIBILITY TO BE BELOW THE RPTED 5 NM. IF IT WAS 5 NM, WE MOST LIKELY COULD HAVE GOTTEN A VISUAL APCH. THE VISIBILITY WAS MORE LIKE 2 OR 3 MI. WE COULD NOT SEE THE FIELD WHILE BEING VECTORED ON A R DOWNWIND. VFR ACFT IN THE VICINITY WERE ASKING FOR 'PRACTICE ILS APCHS' WHICH PROBABLY MEANS THEY COULD NOT SEE THE ARPT. IF OUR TCASII HAD BEEN DEFERRED (BROKEN) THAT DAY (TODAY), I ESTIMATE A 50%/50% CHANCE OF A MIDAIR COLLISION WITH A NEARLY FULL ACFT. THIS TWR NEEDS SOME RADAR. ZDC HAS TROUBLE SEEING US THROUGH THE MOUNTAINS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.