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Attributes | |
ACN | 441898 |
Time | |
Date | 199907 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fll.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 6500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 9l other other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-44 Seminole Turbo Seminole |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 10 |
ASRS Report | 441898 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 442181 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne critical inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance FAA Weather Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
X was at 6000 ft. Y was IFR at 5000 ft northbound. I was also working a VFR at 6500 ft. Traffic was issued to X on both aircraft. Pilot responded. Later, X advised he was descending due to an RA, and I informed X the VFR at 6500 ft was behind him. He informed me that he must respond to the RA. I again issued traffic to him at 5000 ft. X was at 5300 ft when I issued traffic to Y at 5000 ft. TCASII was responded to when pilot knew of both aircraft. X was a B727, X at 6000 ft. Y was a PA44, Y at 5000 ft. The Z VFR was a C421, Z at 6500 ft. Supplemental information from acn 442181: location: 25 NM final for runway 9L at fll. While on extended final for runway 9L at 6000 ft, mia approach advised us of VFR traffic at 6500 ft. Shortly thereafter, the TCASII gave an RA for traffic 400 ft above us. We were unable to see the traffic due to the clouds at our altitude, so I descended to 5400 ft in response to the RA. As I began the descent, mia informed us of IFR traffic at 5000 ft, so I climbed back to 6000 ft since the TCASII RA was over. I spoke with mia TRACON after landing and explained to him that we were unable to see either of the other aircraft in our vicinity due to clouds at our altitude. After our discussion, mia TRACON informed me that this event is closed and no action is contemplated by mia ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 CREW HAD TCASII RA.
Narrative: X WAS AT 6000 FT. Y WAS IFR AT 5000 FT NBOUND. I WAS ALSO WORKING A VFR AT 6500 FT. TFC WAS ISSUED TO X ON BOTH ACFT. PLT RESPONDED. LATER, X ADVISED HE WAS DSNDING DUE TO AN RA, AND I INFORMED X THE VFR AT 6500 FT WAS BEHIND HIM. HE INFORMED ME THAT HE MUST RESPOND TO THE RA. I AGAIN ISSUED TFC TO HIM AT 5000 FT. X WAS AT 5300 FT WHEN I ISSUED TFC TO Y AT 5000 FT. TCASII WAS RESPONDED TO WHEN PLT KNEW OF BOTH ACFT. X WAS A B727, X AT 6000 FT. Y WAS A PA44, Y AT 5000 FT. THE Z VFR WAS A C421, Z AT 6500 FT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 442181: LOCATION: 25 NM FINAL FOR RWY 9L AT FLL. WHILE ON EXTENDED FINAL FOR RWY 9L AT 6000 FT, MIA APCH ADVISED US OF VFR TFC AT 6500 FT. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, THE TCASII GAVE AN RA FOR TFC 400 FT ABOVE US. WE WERE UNABLE TO SEE THE TFC DUE TO THE CLOUDS AT OUR ALT, SO I DSNDED TO 5400 FT IN RESPONSE TO THE RA. AS I BEGAN THE DSCNT, MIA INFORMED US OF IFR TFC AT 5000 FT, SO I CLBED BACK TO 6000 FT SINCE THE TCASII RA WAS OVER. I SPOKE WITH MIA TRACON AFTER LNDG AND EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO SEE EITHER OF THE OTHER ACFT IN OUR VICINITY DUE TO CLOUDS AT OUR ALT. AFTER OUR DISCUSSION, MIA TRACON INFORMED ME THAT THIS EVENT IS CLOSED AND NO ACTION IS CONTEMPLATED BY MIA ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.