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Attributes | |
ACN | 448780 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zse.artcc |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 20000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors enroute : direct enroute airway : j154.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 448780 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 448779 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While passing FL200 for FL290, and on a 130 degree heading, ZSE gave us a 120 degree heading to intercept J54. Shortly after that, we were given direct to ALS. As I put in direct to ALS, the first officer made an initial turn towards ALS which was a little too far to the northeast. Just as he started to make the correction to direct ALS, center asked on what heading we were. I told center we were passing 090 degrees for a heading of 100 degrees, which would take us direct ALS. Center then asked why we were not on a heading of 120 degrees to intercept J54. I explained he had cleared us direct ALS and we had made too large an initial heading change. He acknowledged he had given us direct ALS, but we were several mi from J54 and he needed us back to the right. He gave us a 110 degree heading for the rest of the climb. Apparently, higher than expected winds, combined with a greater than required initial turn placed us further north than center desired. There were no targets on the 20 mi scale of TCASII and we saw no conflicts with either departure or arrival traffic. Center did not indicate that any conflicts had occurred, but he did seem a little bothered by the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW HAD TRACK DEV.
Narrative: WHILE PASSING FL200 FOR FL290, AND ON A 130 DEG HDG, ZSE GAVE US A 120 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT J54. SHORTLY AFTER THAT, WE WERE GIVEN DIRECT TO ALS. AS I PUT IN DIRECT TO ALS, THE FO MADE AN INITIAL TURN TOWARDS ALS WHICH WAS A LITTLE TOO FAR TO THE NE. JUST AS HE STARTED TO MAKE THE CORRECTION TO DIRECT ALS, CTR ASKED ON WHAT HDG WE WERE. I TOLD CTR WE WERE PASSING 090 DEGS FOR A HDG OF 100 DEGS, WHICH WOULD TAKE US DIRECT ALS. CTR THEN ASKED WHY WE WERE NOT ON A HDG OF 120 DEGS TO INTERCEPT J54. I EXPLAINED HE HAD CLRED US DIRECT ALS AND WE HAD MADE TOO LARGE AN INITIAL HDG CHANGE. HE ACKNOWLEDGED HE HAD GIVEN US DIRECT ALS, BUT WE WERE SEVERAL MI FROM J54 AND HE NEEDED US BACK TO THE R. HE GAVE US A 110 DEG HDG FOR THE REST OF THE CLB. APPARENTLY, HIGHER THAN EXPECTED WINDS, COMBINED WITH A GREATER THAN REQUIRED INITIAL TURN PLACED US FURTHER N THAN CTR DESIRED. THERE WERE NO TARGETS ON THE 20 MI SCALE OF TCASII AND WE SAW NO CONFLICTS WITH EITHER DEP OR ARR TFC. CTR DID NOT INDICATE THAT ANY CONFLICTS HAD OCCURRED, BUT HE DID SEEM A LITTLE BOTHERED BY THE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.