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Attributes | |
ACN | 452720 |
Time | |
Date | 199910 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : dietz |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10500 msl bound upper : 11500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon tower : dfw.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : cqy.cqy4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Make Model Name | Baron 55/Cochise |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 452720 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
ATC facility: regional approach control. Location--approaching dietz intersection. Received controller advisory that a baron would cross in front of us at 11500 ft VFR. Observed the aircraft on TCASII while we both searched visually for it. The altitude readout we had on him was +300 ft. Could not acquire the aircraft visually, and then got an RA from TCASII. I (PNF) followed it gently and went down to approximately 10500 ft. Then gently returned to 11000 ft. Controller became concerned that in VFR we followed the RA, even when the baron pilot advised that he had us in sight. If we could not acquire him visually, it would not have been correct procedurally or using common sense to not follow the RA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF A FOKKER 100 DSNDED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA SINCE HE HAD NOT HAD A VISUAL SIGHTING OF THE ACFT GIVEN IN AN ADVISORY BY ATC. THE CTLR ASKED WHY THAT RPTR HAD DSNDED AFTER BEING GIVEN AN ADVISORY OF A BEECH BARON PLT CONFIRMED HAVING THE F100 IN SIGHT.
Narrative: ATC FACILITY: REGIONAL APCH CTL. LOCATION--APCHING DIETZ INTXN. RECEIVED CTLR ADVISORY THAT A BARON WOULD CROSS IN FRONT OF US AT 11500 FT VFR. OBSERVED THE ACFT ON TCASII WHILE WE BOTH SEARCHED VISUALLY FOR IT. THE ALT READOUT WE HAD ON HIM WAS +300 FT. COULD NOT ACQUIRE THE ACFT VISUALLY, AND THEN GOT AN RA FROM TCASII. I (PNF) FOLLOWED IT GENTLY AND WENT DOWN TO APPROX 10500 FT. THEN GENTLY RETURNED TO 11000 FT. CTLR BECAME CONCERNED THAT IN VFR WE FOLLOWED THE RA, EVEN WHEN THE BARON PLT ADVISED THAT HE HAD US IN SIGHT. IF WE COULD NOT ACQUIRE HIM VISUALLY, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CORRECT PROCEDURALLY OR USING COMMON SENSE TO NOT FOLLOW THE RA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.