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Attributes | |
ACN | 464188 |
Time | |
Date | 200002 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jfk.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jfk.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 7800 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 464188 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Airport Weather FAA |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : jfk.tower |
Airport | procedure or policy : jfk.airport |
Narrative:
Departing jfk on runway 4L the SID called for a turn to 90 degrees on departure up to 3000 ft or 5000 ft. As we were rolling on runway 4L for takeoff we heard an aircraft on approach to runway 4R state he was going around because of an unreliable localizer signal. We saw the same aircraft closing on the TCASII. The go around aircraft was now at our altitude. We leveled at 1500 ft and turned left to 360 degrees. The 1ST resolution instructions we received from jfk tower were not given until after we had leveled at 1500 ft and turned to 360 degrees. Tower told us to turn to 360 degrees. I informed them we had already done that and we were level at 1500 ft. If it were not for the TCASII we may have had a midair for the following reasons. 1) the SID dictates flying through the path of the parallel aircraft's approach. 2) the controller was either unable to issue alternate instructions or was unaware of the conflict. These procedures that require controller conflict resolution must be stopped. We narrowly got away this time. The captain and I were the only ones acting to avert disaster.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 AFTER TKOF FROM RWY 4L ACFT HAD LESS THAN LEGAL SEPARATION FROM ACFT ON GAR FROM RWY 4R AT JFK.
Narrative: DEPARTING JFK ON RWY 4L THE SID CALLED FOR A TURN TO 90 DEGS ON DEP UP TO 3000 FT OR 5000 FT. AS WE WERE ROLLING ON RWY 4L FOR TKOF WE HEARD AN ACFT ON APCH TO RWY 4R STATE HE WAS GOING AROUND BECAUSE OF AN UNRELIABLE LOC SIGNAL. WE SAW THE SAME ACFT CLOSING ON THE TCASII. THE GAR ACFT WAS NOW AT OUR ALT. WE LEVELED AT 1500 FT AND TURNED L TO 360 DEGS. THE 1ST RESOLUTION INSTRUCTIONS WE RECEIVED FROM JFK TWR WERE NOT GIVEN UNTIL AFTER WE HAD LEVELED AT 1500 FT AND TURNED TO 360 DEGS. TWR TOLD US TO TURN TO 360 DEGS. I INFORMED THEM WE HAD ALREADY DONE THAT AND WE WERE LEVEL AT 1500 FT. IF IT WERE NOT FOR THE TCASII WE MAY HAVE HAD A MIDAIR FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. 1) THE SID DICTATES FLYING THROUGH THE PATH OF THE PARALLEL ACFT'S APCH. 2) THE CTLR WAS EITHER UNABLE TO ISSUE ALTERNATE INSTRUCTIONS OR WAS UNAWARE OF THE CONFLICT. THESE PROCS THAT REQUIRE CTLR CONFLICT RESOLUTION MUST BE STOPPED. WE NARROWLY GOT AWAY THIS TIME. THE CAPT AND I WERE THE ONLY ONES ACTING TO AVERT DISASTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.