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Attributes | |
ACN | 474591 |
Time | |
Date | 200005 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fwa.airport |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 12300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | Falcon 50 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 1146 flight time type : 70 |
ASRS Report | 474591 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : altimeter other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The flight departed fwa on may/xa/00 at approximately XA50Z. Instructions were as follows: climb to 10000 ft and turn to a heading of 050 degrees to join the cruxx 4 arrival into yip. Once we were close to reaching 10000 ft we were handed off to ZAU on the frequency of 119.85 and the time was approximately XC55Z. At this time the first officer checked in with center and asked for higher. ZAU called out traffic at the 1 O'clock position and the first officer immediately responded with 'traffic in sight.' the controller then said to the other aircraft that the crossing traffic has you in sight and he (the controller) was going to climb us with visual separation. The next broadcast on the frequency was 'climb to FL210.' the captain of our flight keyed up and responded saying, 'air carrier X is climbing to FL210.' the captain then initiated the climb to FL210. After we were through an altitude of 12300 ft MSL, center came on frequency saying, 'air carrier X what is your altitude?!' the captain responded by saying, 'we are climbing to FL210.' the controller responded by saying, 'I said 11000 ft and no higher.' the captain had already started a descent to 11000 ft and the controller said, 'climb to and maintain 17000 ft. After ATC told us 11000 ft and no higher another pilot came on frequency and said, 'I heard it too' meaning he heard the controller tell us to climb to FL210. At this point we were handed off to ZOB and the flight continued as planned. During this whole event it was at least FL200 and clear in a 40 NM surrounding area. There was no conflict with traffic since we had the closest traffic in sight immediately. The time was close to if not during chicago's many scheduled arrs. WX to the northeast close to chicago included rainshowers and convective activity. Tremendous amount of traffic and bad WX were the major factors in this altitude conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A FALCON FA20 OVERSHOT INTERMEDIATE CLB ALT DURING DEP CLB ACCORDING TO ARTCC CTLR.
Narrative: THE FLT DEPARTED FWA ON MAY/XA/00 AT APPROX XA50Z. INSTRUCTIONS WERE AS FOLLOWS: CLB TO 10000 FT AND TURN TO A HDG OF 050 DEGS TO JOIN THE CRUXX 4 ARR INTO YIP. ONCE WE WERE CLOSE TO REACHING 10000 FT WE WERE HANDED OFF TO ZAU ON THE FREQ OF 119.85 AND THE TIME WAS APPROX XC55Z. AT THIS TIME THE FO CHKED IN WITH CTR AND ASKED FOR HIGHER. ZAU CALLED OUT TFC AT THE 1 O'CLOCK POS AND THE FO IMMEDIATELY RESPONDED WITH 'TFC IN SIGHT.' THE CTLR THEN SAID TO THE OTHER ACFT THAT THE XING TFC HAS YOU IN SIGHT AND HE (THE CTLR) WAS GOING TO CLB US WITH VISUAL SEPARATION. THE NEXT BROADCAST ON THE FREQ WAS 'CLB TO FL210.' THE CAPT OF OUR FLT KEYED UP AND RESPONDED SAYING, 'ACR X IS CLBING TO FL210.' THE CAPT THEN INITIATED THE CLB TO FL210. AFTER WE WERE THROUGH AN ALT OF 12300 FT MSL, CTR CAME ON FREQ SAYING, 'ACR X WHAT IS YOUR ALT?!' THE CAPT RESPONDED BY SAYING, 'WE ARE CLBING TO FL210.' THE CTLR RESPONDED BY SAYING, 'I SAID 11000 FT AND NO HIGHER.' THE CAPT HAD ALREADY STARTED A DSCNT TO 11000 FT AND THE CTLR SAID, 'CLB TO AND MAINTAIN 17000 FT. AFTER ATC TOLD US 11000 FT AND NO HIGHER ANOTHER PLT CAME ON FREQ AND SAID, 'I HEARD IT TOO' MEANING HE HEARD THE CTLR TELL US TO CLB TO FL210. AT THIS POINT WE WERE HANDED OFF TO ZOB AND THE FLT CONTINUED AS PLANNED. DURING THIS WHOLE EVENT IT WAS AT LEAST FL200 AND CLR IN A 40 NM SURROUNDING AREA. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT WITH TFC SINCE WE HAD THE CLOSEST TFC IN SIGHT IMMEDIATELY. THE TIME WAS CLOSE TO IF NOT DURING CHICAGO'S MANY SCHEDULED ARRS. WX TO THE NE CLOSE TO CHICAGO INCLUDED RAINSHOWERS AND CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY. TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TFC AND BAD WX WERE THE MAJOR FACTORS IN THIS ALT CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.