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Attributes | |
ACN | 488910 |
Time | |
Date | 200010 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : bowie |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 24000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : ns |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 488910 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Crossing altitude relief. It was captain's leg and we had been given pilot's discretion to cross 40 mi west of bowie at FL240. After a frequency change and at about 50 mi from bowie, ATC asked us if we had been given a descent to FL240. I replied we had been given pilot's discretion, and that we needed relief on the crossing. At about 47 mi out, ATC cleared us to cross bambee at 11000 ft. I said thanks and he said 'no problem' so I think he gave us the relief we requested.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW DID NOT COMPLY WITH AN ATC ISSUED XING RESTR IN ZFW CLASS A AIRSPACE.
Narrative: XING ALT RELIEF. IT WAS CAPT'S LEG AND WE HAD BEEN GIVEN PLT'S DISCRETION TO CROSS 40 MI W OF BOWIE AT FL240. AFTER A FREQ CHANGE AND AT ABOUT 50 MI FROM BOWIE, ATC ASKED US IF WE HAD BEEN GIVEN A DSCNT TO FL240. I REPLIED WE HAD BEEN GIVEN PLT'S DISCRETION, AND THAT WE NEEDED RELIEF ON THE XING. AT ABOUT 47 MI OUT, ATC CLRED US TO CROSS BAMBEE AT 11000 FT. I SAID THANKS AND HE SAID 'NO PROB' SO I THINK HE GAVE US THE RELIEF WE REQUESTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.