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Attributes | |
ACN | 532166 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : jli.vortac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v208.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 49 flight time total : 245 flight time type : 105 |
ASRS Report | 532166 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : turbulence inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : altimeter other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was cruising at 9000 ft MSL on V208 between jli and trm vors. My destination was psp, and I was on an IFR flight plan. While conducting my scan, I noticed that my altitude had dropped about 150 ft. I pitched up to correct this and noticed a continuing drop. I added power and pitched for best rate, then best angle, attempting to arrest the descent. Finally, I began to climb again, after a loss of approximately 700 ft. As the MEA nebound on this airway is 9000 ft, I knew that I did not have a large margin for error, so my main concern was in trying to correct the problem. The controller asked about my altitude, and I replied that I thought I had been caught in a downdraft. I am from the midwest and have had no prior experience in mountain flying. I have since learned that a better course of action would have been to try to alter course to the left or right to fly out of the downdraft, as my aircraft did not have sufficient power to outclb it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIPER PA28-181 PVT PLT ON A SOLO XCOUNTRY TRAINING FLT DSNDED OFF CRUISING ALT DUE TO DOWNDRAFT CONDITION OF WHICH HIS ACFT WAS UNABLE TO OUTCLB.
Narrative: I WAS CRUISING AT 9000 FT MSL ON V208 BTWN JLI AND TRM VORS. MY DEST WAS PSP, AND I WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN. WHILE CONDUCTING MY SCAN, I NOTICED THAT MY ALT HAD DROPPED ABOUT 150 FT. I PITCHED UP TO CORRECT THIS AND NOTICED A CONTINUING DROP. I ADDED PWR AND PITCHED FOR BEST RATE, THEN BEST ANGLE, ATTEMPTING TO ARREST THE DSCNT. FINALLY, I BEGAN TO CLB AGAIN, AFTER A LOSS OF APPROX 700 FT. AS THE MEA NEBOUND ON THIS AIRWAY IS 9000 FT, I KNEW THAT I DID NOT HAVE A LARGE MARGIN FOR ERROR, SO MY MAIN CONCERN WAS IN TRYING TO CORRECT THE PROB. THE CTLR ASKED ABOUT MY ALT, AND I REPLIED THAT I THOUGHT I HAD BEEN CAUGHT IN A DOWNDRAFT. I AM FROM THE MIDWEST AND HAVE HAD NO PRIOR EXPERIENCE IN MOUNTAIN FLYING. I HAVE SINCE LEARNED THAT A BETTER COURSE OF ACTION WOULD HAVE BEEN TO TRY TO ALTER COURSE TO THE L OR R TO FLY OUT OF THE DOWNDRAFT, AS MY ACFT DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT PWR TO OUTCLB IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.