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Attributes | |
ACN | 584042 |
Time | |
Date | 200306 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw.tower |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 584042 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 2 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were cleared into position and hold runway 36R. Both the first officer and I noticed an airplane on short final. We weren't 100% sure he was lined up with runway 36L or runway 36R. As we approached the hold short line, it became clear that he was on final for runway 36R. We told tower that we were going to hold short and did so. Afterwards, tower told us and an eagle to hold short. I feel certain that if we had not held short on our own, there would have been a conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER RECEIVING CLRNC TO POS AND HOLD, AN MD80 CREW NOTICED AN ACFT LINED UP WITH THE RWY AND ADVISED THE TWR THEY WOULD HOLD FOR TFC.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD RWY 36R. BOTH THE FO AND I NOTICED AN AIRPLANE ON SHORT FINAL. WE WEREN'T 100% SURE HE WAS LINED UP WITH RWY 36L OR RWY 36R. AS WE APCHED THE HOLD SHORT LINE, IT BECAME CLR THAT HE WAS ON FINAL FOR RWY 36R. WE TOLD TWR THAT WE WERE GOING TO HOLD SHORT AND DID SO. AFTERWARDS, TWR TOLD US AND AN EAGLE TO HOLD SHORT. I FEEL CERTAIN THAT IF WE HAD NOT HELD SHORT ON OUR OWN, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.