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Attributes | |
ACN | 643909 |
Time | |
Date | 200501 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : luk.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl single value : 1240 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Fog Rain |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : luk.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream III |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils other localizer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision approach other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : luk.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Navigation In Use | ils other localizer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision approach other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 643909 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : gpws other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Narrative:
We executed the localizer back course runway 3R approach. After descending to our MDA of 1240 ft; we estimated flight visibility to be 2 to 2 and a half miles with ground contact. Our GPWS issued a terrain warning at the same time tower issued a low altitude alert and altimeter setting. Since we could see terrain with no obstructions; we continued; confirming we had the correct altitude and altimeter setting. We picked up the airport and made a normal approach to a normal landing. We queried tower when on the ground since we had flown the approach as published. We were told that it is a common occurrence for that approach. There was nothing forewarning us that this may occur. Had we not had ground contact during the approach; GPWS terrain escape maneuver would have been executed. The aircraft on approach behind us had the same occurrence. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that the rate of descent from the final approach fix to the MDA was not excessive and that the aircraft had been established at the MDA for a period of time prior to the GPWS indication. Because the crew had ground contact they did not execute an escape maneuver in response to the warning. However; they also did not see what would have caused a GPWS warning to activate. The reporter stated again as in the submitted report that the aircraft following theirs received the GPWS indication and was also told by the tower that aircraft frequently received false indications on this approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WHILE FLYING AT THE MDA WITH THE CORRECT ALTIMETER SETTING; A G3 FO RPTS A GPWS ALERT ON LOC (BACK COURSE) RWY 3R AT LUK.
Narrative: WE EXECUTED THE LOC BC RWY 3R APCH. AFTER DSNDING TO OUR MDA OF 1240 FT; WE ESTIMATED FLT VISIBILITY TO BE 2 TO 2 AND A HALF MILES WITH GND CONTACT. OUR GPWS ISSUED A TERRAIN WARNING AT THE SAME TIME TWR ISSUED A LOW ALT ALERT AND ALTIMETER SETTING. SINCE WE COULD SEE TERRAIN WITH NO OBSTRUCTIONS; WE CONTINUED; CONFIRMING WE HAD THE CORRECT ALT AND ALTIMETER SETTING. WE PICKED UP THE ARPT AND MADE A NORMAL APCH TO A NORMAL LNDG. WE QUERIED TWR WHEN ON THE GND SINCE WE HAD FLOWN THE APCH AS PUBLISHED. WE WERE TOLD THAT IT IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE FOR THAT APCH. THERE WAS NOTHING FOREWARNING US THAT THIS MAY OCCUR. HAD WE NOT HAD GND CONTACT DURING THE APCH; GPWS TERRAIN ESCAPE MANEUVER WOULD HAVE BEEN EXECUTED. THE ACFT ON APCH BEHIND US HAD THE SAME OCCURRENCE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT THE RATE OF DSCNT FROM THE FINAL APCH FIX TO THE MDA WAS NOT EXCESSIVE AND THAT THE ACFT HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED AT THE MDA FOR A PERIOD OF TIME PRIOR TO THE GPWS INDICATION. BECAUSE THE CREW HAD GND CONTACT THEY DID NOT EXECUTE AN ESCAPE MANEUVER IN RESPONSE TO THE WARNING. HOWEVER; THEY ALSO DID NOT SEE WHAT WOULD HAVE CAUSED A GPWS WARNING TO ACTIVATE. THE RPTR STATED AGAIN AS IN THE SUBMITTED RPT THAT THE ACFT FOLLOWING THEIRS RECEIVED THE GPWS INDICATION AND WAS ALSO TOLD BY THE TWR THAT ACFT FREQUENTLY RECEIVED FALSE INDICATIONS ON THIS APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.