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Attributes | |
ACN | 734189 |
Time | |
Date | 200703 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 734189 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : taxiway other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Situations | |
Airport | markings : pit.airport signage : pit.airport |
Narrative:
On taxi out last month; I encountered an anomaly in the taxiway markings at pit. It was a daytime clear VFR day in an airbus. Taxi route assigned was from the south end of the terminal 'taxi to runway 28C via whisky; echo; cross runway 14.' after crossing runway 14 and passing taxiway november; I was looking for the hold short markings for runway 28C. I found none! Just before taxiway echo bends south to join runway 28C; there is a hold marking on the taxiway for the ILS critical area; but no hold short marking for the runway. There was no 'wig wag' or any other markings whatsoever to designate holding short of the runway. I held at the ILS hold line for lack of a better plan. Once cleared for takeoff; we proceeded past the ILS hold line; turned south (continued) on echo; turned west onto the displaced threshold; and pushed the power up for takeoff; without once seeing anything resembling a hold short mark! I don't know if I missed it; but I don't think it's there. It may have something to do with the easternmost portion of taxiway echo being 'xx'ed out on the taxiway (20-9) diagram. Just thought you might want to check this out.callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter indicated that all the preceding aircraft to runway 28C continued to the end of the runway before stopping.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT RPTS NOT SEEING RWY HOLD SHORT MARKINGS FOR RWY 28C USING TXWY E AT PIT.
Narrative: ON TAXI OUT LAST MONTH; I ENCOUNTERED AN ANOMALY IN THE TAXIWAY MARKINGS AT PIT. IT WAS A DAYTIME CLEAR VFR DAY IN AN AIRBUS. TAXI ROUTE ASSIGNED WAS FROM THE SOUTH END OF THE TERMINAL 'TAXI TO RWY 28C VIA WHISKY; ECHO; CROSS RWY 14.' AFTER CROSSING RWY 14 AND PASSING TAXIWAY NOVEMBER; I WAS LOOKING FOR THE HOLD SHORT MARKINGS FOR RWY 28C. I FOUND NONE! JUST BEFORE TAXIWAY ECHO BENDS SOUTH TO JOIN RWY 28C; THERE IS A HOLD MARKING ON THE TAXIWAY FOR THE ILS CRITICAL AREA; BUT NO HOLD SHORT MARKING FOR THE RWY. THERE WAS NO 'WIG WAG' OR ANY OTHER MARKINGS WHATSOEVER TO DESIGNATE HOLDING SHORT OF THE RWY. I HELD AT THE ILS HOLD LINE FOR LACK OF A BETTER PLAN. ONCE CLEARED FOR TAKEOFF; WE PROCEEDED PAST THE ILS HOLD LINE; TURNED SOUTH (CONTINUED) ON ECHO; TURNED WEST ONTO THE DISPLACED THRESHOLD; AND PUSHED THE POWER UP FOR TAKEOFF; WITHOUT ONCE SEEING ANYTHING RESEMBLING A HOLD SHORT MARK! I DON'T KNOW IF I MISSED IT; BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THERE. IT MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE EASTERNMOST PORTION OF TAXIWAY ECHO BEING 'XX'ED OUT ON THE TAXIWAY (20-9) DIAGRAM. JUST THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK THIS OUT.CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR INDICATED THAT ALL THE PRECEDING ACFT TO RWY 28C CONTINUED TO THE END OF THE RWY BEFORE STOPPING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.