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Attributes | |
ACN | 95908 |
Time | |
Date | 198810 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bwi tracon : iad |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 15000 |
ASRS Report | 95908 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
After takeoff runway 1L dulles airport, instructed by dulles departure control to climb to 9000' (125.05), then fly 060 degrees to intercept V44. Leveled at 9000'. Changed to bwi approach control (128.7) and reported level at 9000'. Informed to descend immediately to 8000' and turn immediately right 60 degrees to avoid light transport Y. We complied. Our WX conditions were in broken clouds. About 1/2-way through the turn we came clear of clouds and visually acquired light transport Y about 1 mi latitude and 500' vertical. When questioned bwi approach control said dulles had incorrectly cleared us to 9000' (?). With less timely work by bwi or a crowded radio (usual at this time of day in the dulles area) this would have been a potential midair. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter did not make a followup telephone call to the facility involved. His only information about the incident is what he received on the radio. He said that by what was said by bwi, he became convinced that iad departure control cleared him to the wrong altitude and bwi saved the day with the timely traffic advisory. Reporter stated that things like this are becoming more common in the new east coast plan.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR-LGT GIVEN EVASIVE TURN BY NEW CTLR, THEN TOLD TO DESCEND TO AVOID ACR-LTT.
Narrative: AFTER TKOF RWY 1L DULLES ARPT, INSTRUCTED BY DULLES DEP CTL TO CLB TO 9000' (125.05), THEN FLY 060 DEGS TO INTERCEPT V44. LEVELED AT 9000'. CHANGED TO BWI APCH CTL (128.7) AND RPTED LEVEL AT 9000'. INFORMED TO DSND IMMEDIATELY TO 8000' AND TURN IMMEDIATELY RIGHT 60 DEGS TO AVOID LTT Y. WE COMPLIED. OUR WX CONDITIONS WERE IN BROKEN CLOUDS. ABOUT 1/2-WAY THROUGH THE TURN WE CAME CLEAR OF CLOUDS AND VISUALLY ACQUIRED LTT Y ABOUT 1 MI LAT AND 500' VERT. WHEN QUESTIONED BWI APCH CTL SAID DULLES HAD INCORRECTLY CLRED US TO 9000' (?). WITH LESS TIMELY WORK BY BWI OR A CROWDED RADIO (USUAL AT THIS TIME OF DAY IN THE DULLES AREA) THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A POTENTIAL MIDAIR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR DID NOT MAKE A FOLLOWUP TELEPHONE CALL TO THE FAC INVOLVED. HIS ONLY INFO ABOUT THE INCIDENT IS WHAT HE RECEIVED ON THE RADIO. HE SAID THAT BY WHAT WAS SAID BY BWI, HE BECAME CONVINCED THAT IAD DEP CTL CLRED HIM TO THE WRONG ALT AND BWI SAVED THE DAY WITH THE TIMELY TFC ADVISORY. RPTR STATED THAT THINGS LIKE THIS ARE BECOMING MORE COMMON IN THE NEW EAST COAST PLAN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.