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Attributes | |
ACN | 188678 |
Time | |
Date | 199109 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : abe |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2700 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : abe |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 26000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 188678 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On approach to abe we were vectored to the localizer. When turned to a heading for localizer intercept and cleared for the approach our TCAS called 'traffic'. We were then notified of traffic by approach control and very shortly after saw the traffic at 10 O'clock slightly below our altitude and 1-2 mi away. It was a twin engine private aircraft. About that time I was approaching the localizer and stopped my descent and turned on final hoping the turning aircraft (mine) in a bank would be more visible to the other aircraft. I had the other aircraft in view until it passed directly underneath mine but we were separated by perhaps 300 ft and I had stopped my descent to preclude collision. Conclusion: TCAS is great but you need almost a full-time operator in congested areas. With 2 pilots, the need to fly the aircraft demands most of your attention and TCAS becomes almost a distraction with all the other demands it can't be utilized fully. The need to look at the display, interpret it and get back outside the cockpit while intercepting localizer etc and monitoring altitudes etc almost degrades your ability to see what's out there by looking outside in the first place!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG STOPS DSCNT IN RESPONSE TO TCASII TA.
Narrative: ON APCH TO ABE WE WERE VECTORED TO THE LOC. WHEN TURNED TO A HDG FOR LOC INTERCEPT AND CLRED FOR THE APCH OUR TCAS CALLED 'TFC'. WE WERE THEN NOTIFIED OF TFC BY APCH CTL AND VERY SHORTLY AFTER SAW THE TFC AT 10 O'CLOCK SLIGHTLY BELOW OUR ALT AND 1-2 MI AWAY. IT WAS A TWIN ENG PRIVATE ACFT. ABOUT THAT TIME I WAS APCHING THE LOC AND STOPPED MY DSCNT AND TURNED ON FINAL HOPING THE TURNING ACFT (MINE) IN A BANK WOULD BE MORE VISIBLE TO THE OTHER ACFT. I HAD THE OTHER ACFT IN VIEW UNTIL IT PASSED DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH MINE BUT WE WERE SEPARATED BY PERHAPS 300 FT AND I HAD STOPPED MY DSCNT TO PRECLUDE COLLISION. CONCLUSION: TCAS IS GREAT BUT YOU NEED ALMOST A FULL-TIME OPERATOR IN CONGESTED AREAS. WITH 2 PLTS, THE NEED TO FLY THE ACFT DEMANDS MOST OF YOUR ATTN AND TCAS BECOMES ALMOST A DISTR WITH ALL THE OTHER DEMANDS IT CAN'T BE UTILIZED FULLY. THE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DISPLAY, INTERPRET IT AND GET BACK OUTSIDE THE COCKPIT WHILE INTERCEPTING LOC ETC AND MONITORING ALTS ETC ALMOST DEGRADES YOUR ABILITY TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE BY LOOKING OUTSIDE IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.