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Attributes | |
ACN | 224189 |
Time | |
Date | 199210 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : den |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 230 |
ASRS Report | 224189 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time type : 730 |
ASRS Report | 224007 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
We were level at 12000 ft, our assigned altitude. We were on assigned heading and airspeed. We received a TCASII alert on traffic at 1 O'clock position and 13000 ft. We spotted the aircraft visually. It appeared to fly above and behind our position. (The aircraft was an airline jet). We then received a climb RA. We notified ATC of our climb RA, turned off the autoplt and climbed approximately 2 or 300 ft as instructed by the RA. We then received a 'clear of conflict' message and returned to 12000 ft. We were told by ATC that the RA steered us toward another aircraft above. The TCASII tested ok both before and after the flight. It seems like TCASII tolerance is more restrictive than ATC separation tolerance. ATC sometimes vector aircraft near each other and RA's result. Perhaps TCASII tolerance should be taken into account in ATC vector separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG CLBED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII COMMAND.
Narrative: WE WERE LEVEL AT 12000 FT, OUR ASSIGNED ALT. WE WERE ON ASSIGNED HDG AND AIRSPD. WE RECEIVED A TCASII ALERT ON TFC AT 1 O'CLOCK POS AND 13000 FT. WE SPOTTED THE ACFT VISUALLY. IT APPEARED TO FLY ABOVE AND BEHIND OUR POS. (THE ACFT WAS AN AIRLINE JET). WE THEN RECEIVED A CLB RA. WE NOTIFIED ATC OF OUR CLB RA, TURNED OFF THE AUTOPLT AND CLBED APPROX 2 OR 300 FT AS INSTRUCTED BY THE RA. WE THEN RECEIVED A 'CLR OF CONFLICT' MESSAGE AND RETURNED TO 12000 FT. WE WERE TOLD BY ATC THAT THE RA STEERED US TOWARD ANOTHER ACFT ABOVE. THE TCASII TESTED OK BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER THE FLT. IT SEEMS LIKE TCASII TOLERANCE IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN ATC SEPARATION TOLERANCE. ATC SOMETIMES VECTOR ACFT NEAR EACH OTHER AND RA'S RESULT. PERHAPS TCASII TOLERANCE SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN ATC VECTOR SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.