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Attributes | |
ACN | 327070 |
Time | |
Date | 199602 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mxe airport : rdg |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rdg |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 152 flight time total : 1180 flight time type : 406 |
ASRS Report | 327070 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While flying my assigned IFR route I heard from ATC, 'look for the ILS.' I responded 'roger.' about 3 mins later ATC queried me about the fact I had not started my descent for the approach. I responded by telling ATC I had not yet received a clearance for the approach. He said I was 'cleared' earlier and I should start my descent. I was in radar contact and never vacated my altitude after our miscom, so I do not think a conflict ever existed. However in a busy situation, or non radar environment a similar scenario could be dangerous. It seems clear that unless pilots and controllers avoid slang terms some confusion from slang is bound to exist.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C172 WAS CLRED FOR AN ILS WITH THE WORDS, 'LOOK FOR THE ILS.' SINCE THE CLRNC WAS UNCLR, THE INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT DID NOT INTERCEPT THE APCH AND THE CTLR QUERIED.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING MY ASSIGNED IFR ROUTE I HEARD FROM ATC, 'LOOK FOR THE ILS.' I RESPONDED 'ROGER.' ABOUT 3 MINS LATER ATC QUERIED ME ABOUT THE FACT I HAD NOT STARTED MY DSCNT FOR THE APCH. I RESPONDED BY TELLING ATC I HAD NOT YET RECEIVED A CLRNC FOR THE APCH. HE SAID I WAS 'CLRED' EARLIER AND I SHOULD START MY DSCNT. I WAS IN RADAR CONTACT AND NEVER VACATED MY ALT AFTER OUR MISCOM, SO I DO NOT THINK A CONFLICT EVER EXISTED. HOWEVER IN A BUSY SIT, OR NON RADAR ENVIRONMENT A SIMILAR SCENARIO COULD BE DANGEROUS. IT SEEMS CLR THAT UNLESS PLTS AND CTLRS AVOID SLANG TERMS SOME CONFUSION FROM SLANG IS BOUND TO EXIST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.