Flight crew of an mdt exceeded speed below class B airspace.

Attributes
ACN	479870
Time
Date	200007
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : sli.vortac
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl single value : 6000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : sct.tracon
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Medium Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	descent : intermediate altitude
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 65 flight time total : 8900 flight time type : 1200
ASRS Report	479870
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued alert other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Flight from san to hhr when a friendly socal controller called to inform us that we were under class B airspace and speed restrs apply. Yikes! This was our first time into hhr and we had spent some time looking at various parts of the flight but not the class B airspace. Now you can say that the lax class B airspace is both large and not easily defined, however, the honest truth is that we hadn't really looked. We always fly under IFR rules and have been lured into thinking that we don't need to be concerned with class B airspace, which may be true for entering the area, not for speed underneath. In talking to the rest of our pilots, most are vague at best concerning the size and altitude restr for the various class B areas. After relating my little story this is a condition that will not exist any longer.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF AN MDT EXCEEDED SPD BELOW CLASS B AIRSPACE.

Narrative: FLT FROM SAN TO HHR WHEN A FRIENDLY SOCAL CTLR CALLED TO INFORM US THAT WE WERE UNDER CLASS B AIRSPACE AND SPD RESTRS APPLY. YIKES! THIS WAS OUR FIRST TIME INTO HHR AND WE HAD SPENT SOME TIME LOOKING AT VARIOUS PARTS OF THE FLT BUT NOT THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. NOW YOU CAN SAY THAT THE LAX CLASS B AIRSPACE IS BOTH LARGE AND NOT EASILY DEFINED, HOWEVER, THE HONEST TRUTH IS THAT WE HADN'T REALLY LOOKED. WE ALWAYS FLY UNDER IFR RULES AND HAVE BEEN LURED INTO THINKING THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BE CONCERNED WITH CLASS B AIRSPACE, WHICH MAY BE TRUE FOR ENTERING THE AREA, NOT FOR SPD UNDERNEATH. IN TALKING TO THE REST OF OUR PLTS, MOST ARE VAGUE AT BEST CONCERNING THE SIZE AND ALT RESTR FOR THE VARIOUS CLASS B AREAS. AFTER RELATING MY LITTLE STORY THIS IS A CONDITION THAT WILL NOT EXIST ANY LONGER.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.