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Attributes | |
ACN | 498310 |
Time | |
Date | 200101 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : fuz.vortac |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation V |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : dodje je3 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 2950 flight time type : 193 |
ASRS Report | 498310 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was the PNF, first officer, when we were inbound to afw on the dodje 3 arrival. The FMS was set up for the STAR and the autoplt was flying. We had completed the approach checks and I was looking at the approach plate. I did not notice that we had passed cabby intersection where we were supposed to turn to a 280 degree heading. The ATC controller asked us if we were in the left turn. Although the captain looked at the arrival he as unaware that a turn to 280 degrees was required. Since I was looking at the approach plate I did not notice that he did not turn. Since the FMS and autoplt were flying, it continued towards its next fix (afw) and did not turn. Pilots really need to pay attention and not always depend on the FMS because it does not always do the right thing. This situation is a perfect example of that. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that he and the captain did not think that the STAR indicated that they were to turn left to a 280 degree heading without ATC's instructions to do so. Therefore, they believed that the controller was just trying to find out if a previous controller had given the heading or another vector instruction.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC IN A C550 ON STAR ARR WERE QUESTIONED BY ARTCC CTLR IF THEY WERE IN A L TURN FOR A HDG CHANGE AT THE STAR FIX JUST PAST.
Narrative: I WAS THE PNF, FO, WHEN WE WERE INBOUND TO AFW ON THE DODJE 3 ARR. THE FMS WAS SET UP FOR THE STAR AND THE AUTOPLT WAS FLYING. WE HAD COMPLETED THE APCH CHKS AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE APCH PLATE. I DID NOT NOTICE THAT WE HAD PASSED CABBY INTXN WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO TURN TO A 280 DEG HDG. THE ATC CTLR ASKED US IF WE WERE IN THE L TURN. ALTHOUGH THE CAPT LOOKED AT THE ARR HE AS UNAWARE THAT A TURN TO 280 DEGS WAS REQUIRED. SINCE I WAS LOOKING AT THE APCH PLATE I DID NOT NOTICE THAT HE DID NOT TURN. SINCE THE FMS AND AUTOPLT WERE FLYING, IT CONTINUED TOWARDS ITS NEXT FIX (AFW) AND DID NOT TURN. PLTS REALLY NEED TO PAY ATTN AND NOT ALWAYS DEPEND ON THE FMS BECAUSE IT DOES NOT ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING. THIS SIT IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HE AND THE CAPT DID NOT THINK THAT THE STAR INDICATED THAT THEY WERE TO TURN L TO A 280 DEG HDG WITHOUT ATC'S INSTRUCTIONS TO DO SO. THEREFORE, THEY BELIEVED THAT THE CTLR WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT IF A PREVIOUS CTLR HAD GIVEN THE HDG OR ANOTHER VECTOR INSTRUCTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.