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Attributes | |
ACN | 546917 |
Time | |
Date | 200205 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
State Reference | FO |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bos.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 546917 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Narrative:
The VOR/DME 3 runway 22 pvr commercial chart X seems to be the preferred approach into pvr. Controllers clear us to toreo to begin the approach. Although toreo is listed at the top of the plan view of the approach, the location (radial/DME) is not specifically given. It does show a distance of 9 DME from the IAF to toreo, but it does not specifically say that toreo is on the 019 degree radial. Toreo is not on the hi en route chart nor is it on the commercial chart Y for pvr. The only place we can find it is on the commercial chart Z page for pvr, dated aug/fri/01. It is located on the pvr 019 degree radial at 30 DME. On both the hi en route chart and the commercial chart Y, the MEA between tny and pvr is shown as 10000 ft. On the approach chart it shows an altitude of 7000 ft after toreo and then 4600 ft after the IAF at pvr 019 degree radial, 21 DME. It seems that toreo should be listed on either the hi en route chart or on the commercial chart Y and that a better definition of the fix should be shown on the approach chart (ie, toreo D30.0). Also, commercial chart X shows a black arrow depicting the highest terrain/obstacle in the plan view, but no altitude is associated with it, other than the terrain contour lines which are difficult to read.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT CONCERNED INTXN NOT PROPERLY LISTED ON APCH CHART.
Narrative: THE VOR/DME 3 RWY 22 PVR COMMERCIAL CHART X SEEMS TO BE THE PREFERRED APCH INTO PVR. CTLRS CLR US TO TOREO TO BEGIN THE APCH. ALTHOUGH TOREO IS LISTED AT THE TOP OF THE PLAN VIEW OF THE APCH, THE LOCATION (RADIAL/DME) IS NOT SPECIFICALLY GIVEN. IT DOES SHOW A DISTANCE OF 9 DME FROM THE IAF TO TOREO, BUT IT DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT TOREO IS ON THE 019 DEG RADIAL. TOREO IS NOT ON THE HI ENRTE CHART NOR IS IT ON THE COMMERCIAL CHART Y FOR PVR. THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN FIND IT IS ON THE COMMERCIAL CHART Z PAGE FOR PVR, DATED AUG/FRI/01. IT IS LOCATED ON THE PVR 019 DEG RADIAL AT 30 DME. ON BOTH THE HI ENRTE CHART AND THE COMMERCIAL CHART Y, THE MEA BTWN TNY AND PVR IS SHOWN AS 10000 FT. ON THE APCH CHART IT SHOWS AN ALT OF 7000 FT AFTER TOREO AND THEN 4600 FT AFTER THE IAF AT PVR 019 DEG RADIAL, 21 DME. IT SEEMS THAT TOREO SHOULD BE LISTED ON EITHER THE HI ENRTE CHART OR ON THE COMMERCIAL CHART Y AND THAT A BETTER DEFINITION OF THE FIX SHOULD BE SHOWN ON THE APCH CHART (IE, TOREO D30.0). ALSO, COMMERCIAL CHART X SHOWS A BLACK ARROW DEPICTING THE HIGHEST TERRAIN/OBSTACLE IN THE PLAN VIEW, BUT NO ALT IS ASSOCIATED WITH IT, OTHER THAN THE TERRAIN CONTOUR LINES WHICH ARE DIFFICULT TO READ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.