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Attributes | |
ACN | 317450 |
Time | |
Date | 199510 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hcm |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 27000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 317450 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared to cross 20 mi northwest of hcm VOR at FL270. Captain attempted to enter the crossing in the FMC. FMC would not accept. Captain then received ATIS for orf. I had been flying the trip all month, and he was inquiring as to the status of a taxiway which was not approved as a taxi surface. While discussing the area, I neglected to start down out of FL290. Center asked us if we were going to start down. I immediately began the descent, but missed the crossing restr by about 9 mi. The problem arose from being distracted from flying the airplane, both in that the FMC would not accept the restr, and the discussion about the taxi surface at orf. The FMC would normally have been a great back-up for making the restr if it had been able to be programmed. I should not have been so involved in an item that was not as critical as the crossing restr.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT UNDERSHOT IN DSCNT. ALT XING RESTR NOT MET.
Narrative: CLRED TO CROSS 20 MI NW OF HCM VOR AT FL270. CAPT ATTEMPTED TO ENTER THE XING IN THE FMC. FMC WOULD NOT ACCEPT. CAPT THEN RECEIVED ATIS FOR ORF. I HAD BEEN FLYING THE TRIP ALL MONTH, AND HE WAS INQUIRING AS TO THE STATUS OF A TXWY WHICH WAS NOT APPROVED AS A TAXI SURFACE. WHILE DISCUSSING THE AREA, I NEGLECTED TO START DOWN OUT OF FL290. CTR ASKED US IF WE WERE GOING TO START DOWN. I IMMEDIATELY BEGAN THE DSCNT, BUT MISSED THE XING RESTR BY ABOUT 9 MI. THE PROB AROSE FROM BEING DISTRACTED FROM FLYING THE AIRPLANE, BOTH IN THAT THE FMC WOULD NOT ACCEPT THE RESTR, AND THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TAXI SURFACE AT ORF. THE FMC WOULD NORMALLY HAVE BEEN A GREAT BACK-UP FOR MAKING THE RESTR IF IT HAD BEEN ABLE TO BE PROGRAMMED. I SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SO INVOLVED IN AN ITEM THAT WAS NOT AS CRITICAL AS THE XING RESTR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.